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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Before we begin today, I want to share a text I got from my sister just now, and this is what getting old looks like.
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This is.
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I mean, she is the epitome of my mother right now.
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The text reads the following Alert, alert, up your vitamin C.
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Everyone either has COVID, rsv or the flu Ding ding, ding.
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Yep, Well, all right, Like Alicia, you have effectively, in your own unique and precious way, you have embodied your mother.
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Yeah, she has Great work and I am so.
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I am comforted, it's kind of like.
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It's like, oh my gosh, like I'm getting to like hear through the spirit of Bonnie.
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Like that's so nice.
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Yeah, I've told this before, but my mom would just randomly text me like, are you watching Dr Oz and I'm?
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Like no, I'm at work, you know.
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And then she would just write back oh well, don't eat licorice or something super random like that.
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And you'd be like, oh okay.
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I'm not going to eat licorice.
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Thanks, mom.
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Never really with any explanation, just so I would like everyone to up your vitamin C.
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That's from my sister.
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And I would also say Echinacea, zinc, iron, zycam is a wonderful homeopathic, health immunity boosting thing, and also you could come and get local distal acupressure from me and we could work specifically on supporting your body and its immune system.
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Yeah, you can call.
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It's different than a cat call.
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Oh, All right, Kat tell the people what we're doing today.
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Okay, we are doing something that was inspired originally by my mom.
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So thank you so much, mom, for this idea, and thank you so much Moose and producer Sarah for thinking it's also a good idea and for us doing it.
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So I spent some time this weekend with a somewhat new friend and she's become like an avid podcast listener.
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She loves the Cat and Moose podcast and so this weekend I was at this like long term intensive thing.
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That was really special to me and I can talk about that if you want me to.
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But spending time with this new friend, I told her the story of when I went and bought $800 worth of rocks to put under my massage table and so I told her that story and she kind of like giggled and she's like, yeah, I know that story.
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And I was like, oh, what do you mean?
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You know that story and she goes well, you talked about it on the podcast and I was like I guess she did.
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And then I told another story about how, from that story, the lady said that at one point in one of my lifetimes I was an ancient Chinese medicine man and she goes oh, yeah, she said Moose wants you to dress like a medicine woman and I literally sat there with her and said how do you know that?
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Well, cat, how else would she know that?
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Well, I don't know, but like it's still like a very strange thing to me when, like, people will know things about my life that I have not personally told them and it's like oh, it's because of it's because of the podcast, yeah, yeah, and so what was my point?
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What are we doing today?
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Oh, what are we doing today?
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And so it kind of reminded me that it's like oh, we have consistently new listeners, like we have a friend that's recently started listening from the UK, we have somebody new from Canada that's been listening, and that's just people who have written into us at hello, at catmoosepodcastcom or called the 1866 KTMO05 number.
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And for those of you who are new, you may be thinking like, wow, this is a lot to take on if I'm going to go like listen to this podcast from the beginning, because these chicks have been doing this for a couple of years now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And my mom said to me she goes.
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You know, for your new listeners, it might be really nice for you guys to revisit older episodes and kind of commentate on the episode in your current being today.
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Yeah, right.
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And so we thought you know what, mom, that's a really good idea and it introduces older episodes to our new listeners and for our listeners who have been faithful all along and you know who you are.
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So all of that to say is we are going to revisit one of the episodes that was personally life transformational for, I think, all of us, and especially for me.
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Yeah, and so you worked some shit out during this episode.
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I worked some shit out and this is early in my most recent like therapeutic journey and bodywork journey, and we talked about a name that my grandmother called me when I was young and we discovered that it could be at least a pointer toward why I am so troubled as a human.
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Yeah, right.
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Well, it's definitely got to be a part of it.
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Yeah.
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Sarah, can you find out for us what the date of that is that we published that episode.
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Yeah, Technically, our sixth full length episode was released on March 23rd 2020.
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And this I think just glancing through the show notes.
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I haven't heard it since March of 2020.
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But I think it's going to bring us right back to not only the beginning of our recording all the feels and experience, but also to see the kind of stuff that we were talking about, the kind of stuff we're still talking about, and you know, I'm curious, Sarah, if the word evolution is going to be something that feels consistent at the end of listening through this, or if it's going to be like shit.
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I'm in the same spot.
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I know the words diet coke show up.
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Oh, interesting, that's beautiful.
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I said to Sarah today as I was like trying to work through some work stuff.
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I was like I feel like I want to go on this, like you know, really creative path, and all I do is circle around at the same moment and circle around the same experience and have to learn it again or find a new angle to learn it, you know.
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And she's like, yeah, that's like spiral dynamics.
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Yeah, I was just thinking Fibonacci, spirals, spiral dynamics, yes, but we weren't talking about spirals yet.
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So this episode we were talking about little Debbie and shag nasty and everything in between.
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Okay, so this one is like three and a half years ago, If you think you've heard this.
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We're asking you to stick around because we are going to share our thoughts along the way.
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There's going to be stuff we just laugh through, but we will ask Sarah to stop the tape so that we can discuss anything that we need to.
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Yeah, we've never done this before, so come join us on this fun journey of listening back.
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Yeah, and we love your feedback too.
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Are there favorite episodes that you would love for us to do this with in the future?
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Do you think this is the worst thing you've ever heard?
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Do you think it is the best thing you've?
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ever heard, definitely the worst.
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You know, I mean I got to start with the negative, but I am evolving.
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Of course you don't.
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You know, you are All right.
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Well, let's let her rip.
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Let her rip, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
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Hey Kat, hey Moose, what are you doing?
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over there.
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Well, I'm pontificating about etiquette, okay.
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Wow, that is the last thing I thought was going to come out of your mouth.
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It's the last thing that anybody would think would come out of my mouth.
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I mean, I remembered another episode you shared that you would be fine not bathing or washing your armpits Me too.
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Still I don't recall that particular statement, but it sounds about right.
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No, I was wondering.
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The other day I was out to lunch with a friend and I had the question pop in my mind when is the appropriate time to put your napkin in your lap?
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Oh, I realized I was like I have no idea.
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And so when I was a young adult, I learned about Emily Post's book on etiquette, and so I went to make me roll my eyes, I know, I know.
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So anyway, I did a little bit of research and I learned some cool stuff.
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So I learned that the appropriate time to open your napkin and put it in your lap is right when you sit down, unless dot dot dot, okay.
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Unless you are at an event where there is a host, and then you don't open your napkin and put it in your lap until the host does.
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Or unless you are at a buffet type setting, then you don't open your napkin and put it on your lap until you have been seated with your food that you went and got from the buffet.
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So now we know when to open your napkin and put it in your lap.
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Who knew Well?
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okay, this open it's up Pandora's box for me I'm sure it does because, like I knew you were going to say that the right time was right.
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When you sit down so say it's passing the food at like Thanksgiving, is it?
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Should it already be in your lap?
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Yes, can we just be real?
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Yes, I didn't use real cloth napkins until I was an adult.
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Well, I was in my thirties.
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Yeah, exactly Like.
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I even owned a set of cloth napkins.
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Isn't it weird how things like that are so like they're $3, a pure one?
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Yeah, pure one doesn't even exist anymore.
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I know I've locked them.
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I actually grew up not using paper towels.
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I used quote unquote paper napkins because my mother, to this day, does not like to use paper towels, why she just thinks it is not a whole thing.
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She doesn't have it.
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And she doesn't use paper towels Two things that are very important to her.
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Wait.
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So if you offer to install a dishwasher, she would still be opposed to it?
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She would not use it no, no, no, no.
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I have to say I do like hand washing dishes.
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There's something calming about not, like you know, I don't have children.
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I'm not saying I would like to offer that to anyone else.
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I'm saying for someone who doesn't have a lot of dishes.
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I enjoy that process, so I appreciate that I would rather pluck out my arm hairs individually than hand wash dishes.
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I hate washing dishes.
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I just feel like it is a colossal.
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It's like this repetitive thing you have to do over and over and over and it ends up accomplishing the same thing, like it just feels like the definition of insanity to me.
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I just hate it.
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I want to do it as quickly as possible, get the dishes in the dishwasher, and I love that.
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After the dishes have been in the dishwasher, there is no question if they are sanitized.
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But here I agree and I'm with you.
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I mean I would prefer I actually washed the dish and then I put it in there, so like.
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So your dishes get like a double wash, double wash.
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But here is what I hate.
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I hate putting the dishes away, like I mean I cannot, I'll do it and I do it all the time, like I almost run the dishwasher every day, but I hate putting dishes away, just like I hate putting clothes away after.
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I wash them.
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I do hate putting clothes away.
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Why is that such a difficult thing?
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The idea of folding them and then putting them where they belong?
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I think it has something to do with the repetitiveness of it.
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It feels like why am I doing the same task over and over and over?
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Like it feels like we're not getting anywhere.
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To me, that's what it feels like.
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I also have been known before I go on a trip to go to a store and buy new clothes, like I'm talking, like old baby, anything fancy, maybe Macy's if it's a big deal.
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But it's one of your bougie music industry events.
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Instead of going to find the dirty clothes that may need washed, because then they'll be in the dryer and I'm like I'd rather just go buy four new tops.
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Okay, but here's where I'm super cookie is, I will not wear something until I have washed it once.
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No, that's not me, it's totally me why.
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I don't know.
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It makes me feel like who knows where that thing has been before it is going to be worn on my body.
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I understand that it went from the hands that made it or the factory that made it to being shipped and there's probably like mouse turds that have touched it and things like that, and then it's been on a hanger and then maybe five or six people have actually tried it on.
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I've never thought of that, no no.
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Okay.
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So, speaking of, there's two kinds of people people who buy something and wear it the next day, and people who buy it and it stays in their closet with tags on for months and then go oh, I need to wear that for this event.
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Which are you?
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I'm a little bit more the latter.
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I'm a little bit more I buy something, I'm going to wear it when the time is right.
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I don't normally just go out and buy something for a thing and then go wear it.
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I mean I'll do that if it's like a fancy thing that I don't feel like I have the outfit for.
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I'm the person that has 10, 20 things in the closet with tags on it.
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You've always had it that I end up giving to my sister for Christmas.
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Yeah, it's true, that's amazing.
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I'm very much an impulse buyer where I'll be like, oh my God, that's a great deal, I need to buy it, and then I don't end up wearing it ever and I donate it or give it to my sister.
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I've been the beneficiary of this habit that you have.
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I get that things your sister doesn't want.
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Oh my gosh, if you had any idea when I used to drink a lot I have so many stories that I cannot share on this podcast.
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Oh no, of buying things on eBay while I was drinking, like compulsive shopping.
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While I'm drinking, that would arrive and I would not remember purchasing them.
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Oh my gosh, I'm not even kidding.
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Is one of them the simple human trash can that ended up getting gifted to your sister.
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That was an intentional purchase.
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These are way worse.
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Just things that I'm like.
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Why would I even buy?
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What head mind frame was I in?
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Did you get it?
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Speaking of mind in your head.
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Did you get a headlamp ever, one of those that you like strap around your head?
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No, but I do have one for hiking and I have one for when I want my dogs in the dark.
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You wear a headlamp, I do.
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That's incredible, not always, but sometimes I do.
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I just want to encourage people in your 20s and 30s.
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Something happens after 40 where you could give two shits about what people think.
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It's so true.
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You see it in your 20s and 30s and you're embarrassed for those people and then you become those people.
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Well, I just thought when I was thinking of my headlamp and you asking me, do I wear it?
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I had this like Rolodex, this, this pictorial Rolodex in my head of like the people who might be listening to the podcast, who I know, and what they would think of me if they thought of me wearing the headlamp on my head.
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And I, literally, as I went through that Rolodex, I thought I just don't care, like if people do not love or respect or care for me anymore because I wear a headlamp when I walk my dogs.
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I don't, I don't want them to be my friend anyway, I was setting boundaries in 2020.
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Yeah, good for you.
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This is before the pandemic Right, at least whoever posts the stuff socially hashtag headlamp.
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That's me.
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So I have a theory that the items that we purchase, or the types of items we purchase, are what we were familiar with as a child, and there's some sort of nostalgic factor about you know.
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So one question to you is what kind of milk did you drink when you were young?
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Always drink vitamin D milk until it seems like like when we hit maybe the teenage years or something like that, we got into 2% milk.
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Yeah, we did too.
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It was either, which I think vitamin D is whole milk.
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It is.
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So either whole milk or 2% is what we would drink, and it's normally signified by the color red.
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Isn't that interesting?
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Yeah, whole milk is.
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For some reason, you know, the label is red, and then there's the 2%.
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Oh no, I think it's blue 2% is blue.
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2% is blue.
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Yeah, and then skim milk, what your mom called Blue water, blue water.
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My sister just posted that on Facebook the other day and a bunch of people commented and said oh it's.
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My grandma would say that skim milk is blue water, it just it's.
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it was the light blue color, wasn't it?
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Yeah, light blue, light blue.
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And then, every now and then, I would run across one and a half percent milk and it seems like the label was green.
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Well, I remember 1%, but there's one and a half.
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No, maybe it was 1%, and then there's a three quarter milk and now oat milk is a huge thing and almond milk.
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I'm not a huge fan of almond milk.
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I'm not a huge fan of any sort of milk that comes from a nut.
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Well, now there's nut pods.
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There's nut pod what?
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Yeah, it's like a thing, it's like a creamer, but it's called nut pods Really.
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And it's almond milk or just almond.
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I need to try those because I have a feeling I would actually enjoy the taste of it.
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They're really good actually I think what I don't understand is how does one extract milk from a nut?
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You know what, if you know the answer why how you get milk from a nut.
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We'd love to hear about it.
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We know we could do that, but we would not rather hear your explanations of how one extracts milk from a nut.
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Okay, I feel like I want to pause for a second.
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Is it possible?
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To pause for a second.
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I was speaking as if I was utilizing therapeutic language in March of 2020, before I went to school to be a massage therapist and a body worker.
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That's pretty cool.
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I just am wondering, like where did I get it?
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Like the only thing that I can-.
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You might've been reading and hanging out and like that may have been like the.
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When did you decide to go to school?
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When was the tipping point?
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In December of 2019.
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So you were yeah, you were already heading that direction.
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I was heading in that direction and I chances are I was just mimicking the modeling that my practitioner was offering to me and I like, like I normally do, and I think it's really interesting too that it's like, oh, I was learning these like verbal skills of how to talk about stuff in such a way.
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That was maybe helpful, yeah you were already on your way, you totally were.
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Oh no, just think that's neat.
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And were you in talk therapy at this point, or did you start that later?
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You were already, oh yeah, so that adds to it too, yeah you yeah, I started in October of 2019.
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So I was in both talk therapy and experiencing body work.
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Keep it rolling.
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Keep it rolling.
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Yep, so I have a story of brand loyalty.
