Brain Exercises and Letting Go

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Welcome to the Cat and.

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Moose podcast.

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I'm Cat.

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And I'm Moose.

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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

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Hey Cat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, hi, sarah, hi, hi, hi everybody, welcome to the podcast.

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Oh, it's good to be here.

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It is, you are Cat and I'm Moose.

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Yes, and that is Sarah.

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Hi, hi, everybody, welcome to the podcast.

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Oh, it's good to be here.

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It is, you are Kat and I'm Moose.

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Yes, and that is Sarah.

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Hi Say, hi Hi.

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I was figuring out my controls?

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Oh, you have controls.

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She's doing like 97 things at one time and you and I are just sitting here talking Right.

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Here's the thing I have my controls one, two and three labeled incorrectly.

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Oh no, per the last situation and it's different.

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So I have to tell my brain one, two and three is not one, two three Currently cat.

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Oh, I see how it is Then moose Well, I would hope so.

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Then me?

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Oh, I guess it's the order of the name.

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But now what I need to do is according to the room which is moose me cat yes.

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The last shall be first, so that my brain doesn't have to think about it when I'm moving.

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It's like a piano.

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Yeah, I would like for you to relabel that, because that could be doing some weird um neurology stuff to your brain, which I'm gonna talk about this week I a little tease did you hear?

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that tease.

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She is a kitty cat.

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They do love to tease.

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Okay, you were telling us when you, we, you've been in our home for a while it sounds like I moved moved in, I know and we were talking and you have this cool dude in your life now.

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I do yeah.

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And I.

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You've been seeing him for how long?

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Yeah, a week.

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Oh, you seem to really like him.

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Yes, I do like him.

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And for the three people that actually might think I had a date, it's not true, that's not what we're talking about, but he's still very important.

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Apparently he's very important.

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And yeah, I went and saw.

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I went to the brain health clinic here in Nashville and I saw Dr Tyler Hurst and he is a neuro chiropractor.

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I had never heard of that before.

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My dad was a chiropractor.

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Never heard of me either.

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My dad was a chiropractor.

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Never heard of me neuro, neuro, neuro chiropractor, so it is the brain.

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Yes, his, his specialty is actually called chiro neurology.

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Wow, chiropractic neurology.

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I think I can't wait to see him.

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Yeah, I'm excited for you to see him.

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And and basically, like, what I learned is that there are some imbalances in my nervous system I thought you're gonna say your brain and I was like oh, same difference.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I have some imbalances and I did some things in the office different therapy type situations, everything from, like, um, neuromuscular pressure points, to doing what felt like playing video games on the wall, to like following this one particular chart in a certain direction five times.

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Like I'm doing all this kind of stuff.

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That my understanding of it right now is that it's going to kind of retrain my brain and help rebalance my nervous system, cause right now it's a little bit out of whack.

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Well, I could have told you that about your nervous system.

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You want to pay me $150?

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Yes, I am so fascinated by it because I've been leaning into polyvagal theory and I'm pretty sure I'm in the nervous collapse area and have been for a while.

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But I'm really interested in all the things you were sharing that he's doing.

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Yeah, it's really cool.

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I have all these exercises that I have to do like four times a day.

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Oh, I saw you doing some of that, yeah, and then I have.

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can you give us an example?

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Sure, I'll give you an example.

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So I have to put my right thumb out in front of my face, like with like I'm giving somebody a thumbs up, like I'm giving Moose a thumbs up, and I have to turn my head to put my right ear to my right shoulder while staring at my thumb 10 times.

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And then I have to take my left thumb after I've done those 10 times and I'm not doing this right because of my microphone, but I have to look at it and I have to follow it all the way to the left and then back to center.

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And all the way to the left and back to center.

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So I have to do that 10 times.

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And then back to center and all the way to the left and back to center.

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So I have to do that 10 times.

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And then I have to walk around my house with a ball in my right hand and toss it up in the air and catch it for like five minutes.

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And I'm supposed to do like a gratitude journal.

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I'm supposed to do my Qigong movements in the morning.

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Have at least 16 ounces of water.

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Oh my gosh.

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I mean, this is a list.

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This is a list and in like several supplements that he recommended, just like stuff you can get on Amazon that's good for like brain health, nervous system health.

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So I'm I'm tracking it about 65% Right now.

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That's pretty good reading.

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He sent me a very comprehensive, like kind of post evaluation after my first visit and he told me he was like these practices will take a while to build up to, so I'm not expecting perfection out of you, like week one, and so that felt really good and it didn't make me feel like, oh, I'm not going to go do them, because of course, I'm going to do it, like if I want to help myself, like I'm going to do it, and the fact that I have not followed them to the T a hundred percent every day is fine, it's okay, it's okay.

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My favorite one to do is that before I go to bed, I am supposed to walk backwards for like five minutes.

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And are you just doing this around your house or like in the neighborhood?

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I've done it around.

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Well, I'm out, like on Old Hickory Boulevard.

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I've seen people do it.

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They're just like walking backwards down OHB Really.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's my prescription.

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I mean, I could understand Bell Road and I-24, but OHB.

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Yeah, so no, I'm walking in my house and I've been walking around my pool deck.

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Okay, that doesn't seem safe.

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I mean, although you do know how to swim.

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I do, but what if you?

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knock yourself out.

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Well then, I'll probably drown.

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Oh good, Can I get you one of those things to put around your neck?

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Is it too early?

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It's probably not too early for me.

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I don't think it is too early for her either.

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Her new nickname is bumps by the way, because it's like yeah, like you're not supposed to be having falls until you're like older, and I would like to say I have not fallen okay, that's fair, that's fair, so you guys are not alike.

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You are a faller.

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Oh, I'm a faller.

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I have not fallen walking backwards.

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No, and what I've been doing is I've been using the edge of the pool as my guide, and so as long as I'm parallel with the edge of the pool, I'm good.

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And it's driving.

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Yeah, it's been.

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It's like staying in between the lines, Like it's.

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It's been fantastic and my was was that if I, if I were to mess up, I have at least a 50 possibility of falling in the pool.

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Yeah, and not hurting myself.

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That's true unless you hit the side unless I hit the side of the concrete with my nervous system I really did picture you blindfolded walking back I don't know why, but that's why I'm like that seems dangerous.

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Yeah Well, I mean, it is dangerous.

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Yeah, um, I mean, but not the most dangerous thing you could do, oh gosh no, no, I mean, if you do it, yeah, yeah If it's an OHB.

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Yeah, um problem.

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I always see people at the gym walking on the treadmill backwards, really so it's a.

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Thing.

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Yeah, I thought they were just like trying to get really good calf muscles or something.

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Well, I mean, it makes sense, like it.

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You know, I've heard fitness coaches, cause that's what I do, is I listen to fitness coaches.

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Wait, you mean your fitness coach shared this with you right, I don't have a fitness coach.

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Look at me, moose, I do not have a fitness coach, hey you know what.

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Everybody needs a coach.

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Yes, yes Okay.

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So your fitness coach told you what?

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I feel like I have heard from people who are smart about the body that walking both forwards and backwards is beneficial for the muscles, for the nervous system for balance for yeah, yeah.

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It's very odd, but I'm glad, like I do understand the idea of it rewriting your neural pathways.

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Yeah, and it's.

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It's also one of the things I have to do at night after I do my backwards walking is I have to splash my face with cold water 10 times, and what does that do?

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I don't know.

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Wakes your shit up.

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Well, I mean, one would think.

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But I've been sleeping While you're going to bed, though, yeah, I've been sleeping great.

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You're going to have to start cold plunging.

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Have you thought about doing it?

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No, I don't.

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I just I believe in it, sure, and I don't want to subject my body to that at this juncture of my journey.

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Well, if you choose to go that direction, yeah, I have been trying it for about 15 seconds at the end of my shower, just like turning it completely cold.

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Yes, how's it been so far, so good, tolerable.

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I mean, it's not fun.

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It's better than submerging yourself, but that's what, uh, old Wim Hof says to do if you're like practicing.

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But there's a new place in Nashville that is doing cold plunges and saunas and it's really cool Cause it looks like out it's outdoors, so everybody has their own individual cold plunge.

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There's outdoor showers.

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You're clothed, in case anyone's nervous, it's some nudist well, I was gonna say, is it like the orvis place where I've been, where everybody's naked, but I feel like you could start a trend there and just go naked, yeah, but uh, my point is I want to go try it.

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I mean, I could really do it in my bathtub, like I.

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I get fed all these Instagram things that are like this one is portable and this one is the coldest and yeah, you know yeah, it's so weird and I know this is kind of an old topic, but I mean, our phones are always listening.

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Oh yeah, you know, it's like I was talking about something the other day and then got fed something exactly along the lines of what I was talking about and it's just like, really Like, if you're going to do that to help cure diabetes, I'm all here for it.

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I don't know.

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I make too much money on that, sorry, yeah, um, I want to talk about something.

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Uh, I saw a post from a couple of weeks ago Glennon Doyle, uh, who has the podcast we can do hard things.

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Um, her sister was diagnosed with breast cancer and just went through like, the surgery and is still in all of her treatment.

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But her sister runs her organization, her nonprofit, and I saw her post this video.

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Glennon posted this and they had talked about on their podcast how they were going to have to let go of some things because her sister was in the season of having to heal and um, anyway, she did this video where she was basically sharing that their nonprofit, together rising, was going away and I, I was sitting there watching it and I've watched them like, build this thing.

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They do unbelievable work for women, unbelievable work internationally for women and, um, I'm sure anyone who's listened to Glennon Doyle has, like she does these flash mob things where she'll have listeners, you know, donate $5 to help a family and just incredible stuff.

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But I was sitting here watching this in awe of watching someone go through the process of letting something go.

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I know, yeah, and I wrote down the words.

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I want to talk about knowing when things should end.

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Oh my gosh, oh, man, yeah, okay.

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Well, I had all the feelings about it too, like I was sitting there watching her tell her followers that this was going away and knowing, you know, probably month or weeks at least had gone into like this decision, yeah, and knowing how hard that is to let something go, yeah, and I have had friends who have, um, had businesses kind of go by the wayside, or even houses and like things you know, and we always talk.

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I was so just in awe of that moment.

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I know I keep repeating that, but have you guys had difficult times with letting things go and and, in particular, knowing and not ignoring and being in denial of when things need to end?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yes, I have had.

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I have had many moments like that and I've had many moments like that and I've had many moments of knowing something needed to end and not being willing to release it on my own?

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Yes, me too.

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You know, and things ending like because I don't have a choice.

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You know, it's like I was given a choice and I didn't make it and so it was made for me.

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You know, I think the things that come to mind for me is having worked in artist management for 20 plus years.

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Um, I think the thing that's been the hardest for me even when it's sweet and beautiful and amicable and all of that is parting ways with a client.

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Yeah, for sure.

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That's because there are usually tears, there are usually feelings on both sides of the relationship and being able to say to someone like you've outgrown me or I've outgrown you or I no longer have things that you need, or I don't have what you need.

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I never had what you need you know like whatever, whatever the thing is, and I think those have been the ones that when I think of, like needing to let go of something that's that's come to an end, that's probably been the hardest for me, yeah.

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I always find it's hard because you don't know what the other side is going to look like.

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Oh no, like in this case, it's part of her career.

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It's it's part of her career, it's a piece of what she's doing, so she can continue with all these other areas.

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But yeah, I often think about why am I hanging on to fill in the blank?

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And it generally has to do with comfort, and not even comfort, but not wanting discomfort.

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Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to put it because there's a lot of things that I could probably make the decision to to be like oh we're here, let's wrap it up, but I have fear of what replaces that in some ways yeah.

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And uh, anyway, I was coaching someone recently and they were walking through a similar situation like that where they, uh, the writing was on the wall in a lot of ways of like you need to go, this is done, this is wrapped up, but I can't say that.

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You know, I can only guide them in their journey.

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And um, and it just this idea just keeps popping up to me of like, and I think it's cause I think there are some things in my life that need to wrap up and move on.

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Um, and I'm just processing how do other people deal with it?

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Well, in, in.

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I think that that sounds to me like a really smart thing to do is to go.

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I'm going to go watch other people, either who I don't know at all or other people I really respect and go.

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What was that like for you and how did you?

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It's kind of like grief.

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It's like once you understand the steps of grief and once you understand that they arise at weird times and stuff like that, then you've got at least a little bit more of a toolbox of what to do when you face that thing.

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So, it's really smart that you're taking in others' experiences.

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I remember I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of one time a client that you recommended to me there were a few doozies, there were a few, I mean, there were some really great ones, yeah, of course, and if you're listening, you could have been one or the other.

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You may have been and you may never know which you were.

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And this time you will know who you are if you're listening Is we were at a Mexican restaurant together and this client stood up and I thought he was going to punch me in the face, like I was physically afraid for my life, Like it was so messed up and I remember calling you like in an absolute panic going like this just happened I've blocked this out.

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I thought I had to, but here it is like oh my god and it was really scary, but you were trying to end the relationship.

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No, I wasn't even trying to end the relationship like like there was a, there was just conflict yeah, I don't really remember what the conflict was about.

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I have I have effectively blocked that out.

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Is it who I think it is?

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Oh, you know it is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that person was struggling man yeah I have no doubt they are not listening to our podcast?

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there's no way.

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If they are, it's in one of those situations where someone has kidnapped this person, yeah, and you know how they play loud music, torture.

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It's like you're going to be forced to listen to cat news and producer Sarah, yeah, maybe in that, in that instance, they're listening that is the same person who walked off of a plane.

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One of my teammates was on a plane with them, and they walked off of a plane with their guitar because the stewardess would not help them find a place for their guitar.

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So they just left.

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But they didn't have a phone, and so they were like stranded in Las Vegas without a phone, nice, and a week later found their way home.

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Wow, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad that something that's in the past and not in our current.

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Yeah, I think that we've grown so much.

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I am sorry I need.

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I'm trying to think there's two.

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I know I need to apologize.

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I think there might be.

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Oh no, there's three.

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Let's just say it's all water under the bridge, like it really is.

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Because, like each one of those experience, I'm not being funny, I didn't do an improv thing just then.

00:18:35.731 --> 00:18:37.988
I just, oh, let me know when you're improving.

00:18:37.988 --> 00:18:43.711
Yeah, um, I, I feel like each of those experiences taught me a lot.

00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:47.164
Well, I hope so, cause they didn't pay you a lot.

00:18:52.201 --> 00:18:52.683
I learned.

00:18:52.683 --> 00:18:53.567
I learned a lot.

00:18:54.001 --> 00:18:59.170
Oh my God, sarah, can you pull up on the screen the thing I sent you?

00:18:59.170 --> 00:19:01.326
Kat, if you could please read this.

00:19:01.326 --> 00:19:05.411
This inspired me this week when I saw it on the Instagrams.

00:19:08.080 --> 00:19:19.306
These close-ups are like you want to talk about therapy, like just watching our podcast last week and having to watch myself for almost an hour and just go.

00:19:19.306 --> 00:19:21.930
You, you are awesome.

00:19:21.930 --> 00:19:27.926
That's right, girl, you are awesome and, wow, you got it what's the problem?

00:19:27.967 --> 00:19:28.969
I'm looking at you right now.

00:19:28.969 --> 00:19:29.750
You look great.

00:19:29.750 --> 00:19:30.893
I mean, I look great.

00:19:30.893 --> 00:19:33.044
Put her up there, yeah there she is.

00:19:34.005 --> 00:19:38.553
I mean I've let my hair go like swampy because I've been swimming in the pool.

00:19:38.553 --> 00:19:39.974
Really, I love it.

00:19:40.460 --> 00:19:43.348
I heard you guys talking about it downstairs and I love it.

00:19:43.348 --> 00:19:46.248
Oh well, thanks, I don't think you should straighten that crap, man.

00:19:46.248 --> 00:19:51.622
Okay, speaking of, while you put this screen up on the thing, there we go.

00:19:51.622 --> 00:19:55.306
Speaking of.

00:19:56.781 --> 00:19:57.906
That's good.

00:19:58.621 --> 00:19:59.767
We'll get to it in a minute.

00:19:59.767 --> 00:20:01.324
I just told you to put it up.

00:20:01.324 --> 00:20:06.386
What do you guys think about women going naturally gray Because we have a shared friend?

00:20:06.386 --> 00:20:07.744
You know what I'm talking about.

00:20:07.924 --> 00:20:08.247
Not yet.

00:20:09.980 --> 00:20:10.823
She's an author.

00:20:11.766 --> 00:20:12.027
Okay.

00:20:12.027 --> 00:20:17.211
And the fact that we know multiple of those is kind of neat.

00:20:17.259 --> 00:20:18.242
Well, you used to work with her.

00:20:18.242 --> 00:20:19.828
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

00:20:19.828 --> 00:20:21.381
Okay, yeah, it is kind of neat.

00:20:21.381 --> 00:20:32.106
Um, so, anyway, she just went, uh, gray, and had it like mixed in to her color or whatever, and it looks phenomenal and I am so inspired by people that are doing that.

00:20:32.106 --> 00:20:36.073
What do you guys think about women like allowing their hair to go gray?

00:20:36.073 --> 00:20:37.894
I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but what do you think?

00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:40.186
I find it extremely attractive.

00:20:40.186 --> 00:20:41.330
I do too.

00:20:41.330 --> 00:20:42.766
I find it very attractive.

00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:44.064
I agree.

00:20:44.064 --> 00:20:45.087
What do you think, Sarah?

00:20:45.641 --> 00:20:46.915
I think you just go with it.

00:20:46.915 --> 00:20:47.219
Yeah.

00:20:47.219 --> 00:20:49.520
When you feel it, you go with it, yeah.

00:20:50.683 --> 00:20:51.025
I agree.

00:20:51.025 --> 00:20:52.188
Okay, back to this.

00:20:52.188 --> 00:21:03.251
All right, so here is the statement that I saw on instagram if your home is a place of peace, you've broken the cycle you guys.

00:21:03.251 --> 00:21:04.294
Yeah, that's huge.

00:21:04.394 --> 00:21:08.803
That's from the holistic psychologist I thought you were gonna say that's from the holy spirit.

00:21:08.803 --> 00:21:12.807
That's, I'm like true man.

00:21:12.807 --> 00:21:19.291
Hebrews 11, 13 hebrews.

00:21:19.291 --> 00:21:24.916
So what cycle has been broken if your home is peaceful?

00:21:25.336 --> 00:21:26.300
this meant a lot to me.

00:21:26.300 --> 00:21:28.747
I'm glad you asked, because I didn't.

00:21:28.747 --> 00:21:30.511
I haven't processed why it meant a lot to me.

00:21:30.511 --> 00:21:33.825
Okay, but I will say this I grew up in a chaotic home.

00:21:33.825 --> 00:21:47.569
I've talked about it before and when I first got my own place, like early days, like shitty apartment early days, I could not believe how quiet things were.

00:21:47.569 --> 00:22:02.585
Yeah, even though I had college and I had a time frame where, you know, things were different, like it was bizarre to be like oh, I'm at home and everything is quiet and peaceful, and it's taken me a lot of years to recognize that's a huge thing.

00:22:02.585 --> 00:22:09.364
That I need is a quiet, peaceful home, and I do feel like I've broken the cycle in some ways.

00:22:09.384 --> 00:22:13.333
Yeah, that's fantastic, like that's so good.

00:22:13.333 --> 00:22:23.442
And I was just talking to you guys earlier about situations where my dog Bell Bell is uncomfortable, and she's uncomfortable in busy, loud situations.

00:22:23.442 --> 00:22:47.267
She's just she's visibly uncomfortable, and I think that some of that is her disposition and I think that some of that is that my household is extremely peaceful yeah if there is anything loud or boisterous or really like huge energy in my house, it's me yeah, it's me like I'm what she likes.

00:22:47.788 --> 00:22:49.049
Yeah, yeah, she does.

00:22:49.049 --> 00:22:52.763
But but even if I get to talking too much, she'll start going.

00:22:53.305 --> 00:22:59.589
I know I've done that where we've been over there just talking and she'll just start moaning Like, can you guys just shut up?

00:22:59.589 --> 00:23:00.394
Yeah, yeah.

00:23:00.721 --> 00:23:07.686
She really, really likes it peaceful, yeah, so I think that's she has broken a cycle too she has broken the cycle, man.

00:23:07.686 --> 00:23:17.305
That's awesome, and it makes me feel really good because I feel like my house is peaceful too.

00:23:17.305 --> 00:23:22.573
It is so that's really wonderful, I agree, thank you, okay, so home chores, cleaning the house, things like this.

00:23:22.573 --> 00:23:24.621
Do you guys have a vacuum?

00:23:25.943 --> 00:23:26.585
Yes.

00:23:26.945 --> 00:23:29.069
Okay, right over there, yeah, I see it over there.

00:23:29.632 --> 00:23:30.333
Where did you get it?

00:23:30.333 --> 00:23:31.681
Where did you get it?

00:23:31.780 --> 00:23:32.201
Amazon.

00:23:32.201 --> 00:23:41.771
Here's why, after at least two, possibly three purchases and returns, I went ahead and got the good one.

00:23:42.393 --> 00:23:42.913
The Dyson.

00:23:42.913 --> 00:23:43.693
Is it a Dyson?

00:23:43.693 --> 00:23:44.996
Yeah, yeah, nice.

00:23:44.996 --> 00:24:01.228
The reason I ask is that I was driving running an errand earlier this week and I was sitting at a stoplight and I turned to my left and I see this store five times a week, so I know what it is.

00:24:01.228 --> 00:24:02.471
I've seen it a thousand times.

00:24:02.471 --> 00:24:05.806
It's called the edison vacuum store.

00:24:05.806 --> 00:24:06.848
I know exactly what you're.

00:24:06.848 --> 00:24:08.051
You know what I'm talking about.

00:24:08.051 --> 00:24:10.368
Oh yeah, it's on church street oh yeah, it's in brentwood.

00:24:10.388 --> 00:24:15.087
I know what you're talking about and there are displays of vacuums in the window oh yeah, over by sonic.

00:24:15.087 --> 00:24:26.094
Yes, it's over by sonic and it is a live and active storefront for vacuums and do they repair or they also sell Hell, if I know, I think both.

00:24:26.094 --> 00:24:31.505
I was with a friend at the time and we were talking about like have you ever seen anybody walk into that store?

00:24:31.505 --> 00:24:33.694
Never, have you ever seen anybody in that store.

00:24:33.775 --> 00:24:34.700
Oh, it's a drug front.

00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:43.567
And so we've decided that that store is a money laundering like facade, money laundering like facade.

00:24:43.867 --> 00:24:45.950
Truly it's like bead stores.

00:24:45.950 --> 00:24:52.434
How can a bead store survive without there being a drug front involved?

00:24:52.434 --> 00:24:54.717
It's a fair question.

00:24:54.717 --> 00:24:57.182
It's a very fair question.

00:24:57.202 --> 00:24:59.309
I mean honestly, vacuum and bead.

00:24:59.309 --> 00:25:06.863
Okay, there's a new cupcake store over here too and I was like I mean, mean, I know, I know how much it costs to have a store.

00:25:06.863 --> 00:25:10.535
It's like six thousand a month right, it's ridiculous.

00:25:10.875 --> 00:25:11.297
And how?

00:25:11.337 --> 00:25:15.547
many cupcakes do you have to sell to pay for that rent.

00:25:15.547 --> 00:25:22.934
I mean either that or someone's dream is just from the get-go, because that is a shit ton to pay up front.

00:25:22.934 --> 00:25:26.343
That's a lot to pay up front it reminds me of bridesmaids.

00:25:26.903 --> 00:25:30.510
Uh, is it amy poehler's uh character?

00:25:30.510 --> 00:25:31.471
She had?

00:25:31.471 --> 00:25:32.413
No, it's.

00:25:32.413 --> 00:25:35.244
Uh, it's someone's character kristen wigg.

00:25:35.244 --> 00:25:37.931
She had a cake shop and it went to shit.

00:25:37.931 --> 00:25:44.469
Yeah, like at the very beginning, they're like walking past it and the letters are falling off the front I don't remember that.

00:25:44.489 --> 00:25:47.193
I don't remember that it's just did you go, have you?

00:25:47.193 --> 00:25:48.194
We need to go in.

00:25:48.194 --> 00:26:04.828
Yes, we should take the cat and moose to the vacuum shop and interview the guy let's seriously do it and maybe our um, our critic, our podcast critic you know who you are that maybe you're willing to help us with follow-through on that and maybe you could be our camera person.

00:26:05.190 --> 00:26:06.553
Oh yeah, we do need a camera.

00:26:06.553 --> 00:26:12.227
Yeah, we're a video podcast now Right, right, I mean we love a good closeup.

00:26:12.347 --> 00:26:17.144
It just oh, it just oh it brings it all.

00:26:17.884 --> 00:26:20.307
I was like, oh, what is this?

00:26:20.367 --> 00:26:25.795
I haven't eaten for a week after I watched that I know I'm actually on a starvation fast.

00:26:25.795 --> 00:26:37.182
Yeah, I was like you came over and I was like I got to be honest.

00:26:37.182 --> 00:26:39.044
You've been here for over an hour and there's been no wine flowing.

00:26:39.044 --> 00:26:39.505
What is happening?

00:26:39.505 --> 00:26:40.246
Well, it's the weirdest thing.

00:26:40.266 --> 00:26:43.028
Like I think it's been a week since I've gone to this neuro chiropractic person and his team.

00:26:43.028 --> 00:27:11.166
He's got a whole team of people who are amazing and I, he said after my first appointment he's like tonight you might be really flat, you might be depressed, you might even be kind of sad, and that's just because like we're kind of together, we're going in and we're kind of reconfiguring things, like we're ultimately doing this so that your nervous system is more balanced and you are more efficient and you are more on point and you see better and you feel better and your foot hurts less and all of that kind of stuff.

00:27:11.166 --> 00:27:17.528
And at the beginning that can, as we all know, when we start changing shit, it can be really uncomfortable.

00:27:17.528 --> 00:27:28.773
And so what I didn't know to expect and I'm so curious to talk to him about this when I see him next week is that I really, really enjoy at the end of my workday.

00:27:28.773 --> 00:27:35.750
I really enjoy having wine at least with my dinner, and it's just, it's kind of, at this point, it's a habit.

00:27:36.082 --> 00:27:37.160
I don't think I'm an alcoholic.

00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.799
I'm not drinking 73 bottles of wine at night.

00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.780
It's like I just like to have wine, only 70, not 73.

00:27:42.780 --> 00:27:43.501
Three bottles of wine at night?

00:27:43.501 --> 00:27:44.903
It's like I just like to have wine only 70, not 73.

00:27:44.903 --> 00:28:02.555
And for the past week I have almost been turned off by my wine, so crazy, like to the point that a few times I've just been like okay, like I guess I'm not going to have that right now and that's not a goal of mine, sure In, in going to this place, like that's.

00:28:02.555 --> 00:28:06.221
I mean I'd like to lose weight.

00:28:06.221 --> 00:28:08.026
So the less calories one consumes, one loses more weight.

00:28:08.847 --> 00:28:09.569
Um, I didn't know.

00:28:09.569 --> 00:28:13.285
That's how that works shit.

00:28:13.384 --> 00:28:14.846
How is the keto?

00:28:14.846 --> 00:28:38.009
Thing going wait, I still want to hear about this, okay, um, so it's just been kind of interesting just to observe, yeah, that like my tendencies, my cravings, my willingness to do my movement every morning, like that feels like such a struggle bus to me unless I'm in class with all my colleagues and I'm like, well, they're all doing it and I'm going to do it with them because I like to have a friend.

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.550
You know it's like I'm motivated to do my movements when I'm with my people.

00:28:41.550 --> 00:28:45.391
When I'm by myself I'm less motivated and I still do it.

00:28:45.391 --> 00:28:54.660
But since this appointment I've enjoyed, like, I have felt like, oh, this feels good to stretch my body and move my body.

00:28:54.660 --> 00:29:01.905
So it's been really neat that, like some rewiring or something's going on, your body is telling you what it wants.

00:29:01.905 --> 00:29:03.851
Maybe, so I think it is.

00:29:03.851 --> 00:29:07.366
Yeah, it's really cool, as I sit my short day.

00:29:07.406 --> 00:29:09.771
Hey, you didn't for the first couple hours.

00:29:09.771 --> 00:29:13.605
Cheers, everyone, cheers.

00:29:13.625 --> 00:29:19.555
Cheers to a life, yes, okay, so were you one of those people?

00:29:19.555 --> 00:29:22.006
Well, no, I want to ask you how is keto going?

00:29:22.006 --> 00:29:25.521
It's good, I'm not in ketosis yet, okay.

00:29:25.521 --> 00:29:26.163
How about you, sarah?

00:29:28.066 --> 00:29:28.646
Not yet.

00:29:28.646 --> 00:29:32.753
She's like doing it for a hobby?

00:29:32.753 --> 00:29:33.234
Not yet.

00:29:33.335 --> 00:29:43.028
Like like I'm doing it and now that she's not, but she doesn't really have a need to do it I think I'm doing it to see, kind of, what you're doing it for.

00:29:43.028 --> 00:29:44.662
How does it change my body?

00:29:44.662 --> 00:29:45.243
What?

00:29:45.766 --> 00:29:46.769
does it really doing it?

00:29:46.769 --> 00:29:48.232
No, I'm not doing it.

00:29:48.232 --> 00:29:50.480
I think she's doing this other stuff.

00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.584
I was tracking exercises, yeah, yeah.

00:29:52.963 --> 00:29:56.230
So, um, it's going fine.

00:29:56.230 --> 00:30:01.703
Uh, I think it's hard to get that much protein in your diet every day.

00:30:01.703 --> 00:30:09.513
I mean, I did like double steak at Chipotle, what I know who, what that's like in the.

00:30:09.513 --> 00:30:10.875
No, no, I get it, I get it.

00:30:10.875 --> 00:30:12.325
I was like double steak.

00:30:12.325 --> 00:30:16.746
I couldn't eat it all, but it was like double steak, cheese and sour cream.

00:30:16.746 --> 00:30:21.806
I'm going to die of a heart attack, oh no, but let's not, let's not put that out there.

00:30:22.246 --> 00:30:28.653
Now let me just say I'm also eating very healthy fats as well, so I'm eating avocado every morning and all of that.

00:30:28.653 --> 00:30:31.556
But yeah, it's interesting.

00:30:31.556 --> 00:30:40.232
I will say that, Like I, I do think that having less sugar in my diet affects my mood.

00:30:40.553 --> 00:30:42.230
Really In a good way, like I was going to say.

00:30:42.230 --> 00:30:42.736
In which direction?

00:30:42.736 --> 00:30:43.019
In a good way.

00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:44.673
Okay, um, affects my mood really in a good way like, and I was gonna say in which direction.

00:30:44.673 --> 00:30:56.945
Okay, I don't feel like I was feeling like I needed a nap every day at like three o'clock and, granted, there's a lot of factors for that, or whatever menopause, all of those things all kinds of energy flows exactly our cycle.

00:30:56.945 --> 00:31:02.605
Yes, yes, we're gonna talk like this now for the rest of the podcast welcome to 1-900.

00:31:03.608 --> 00:31:04.330
Sweaty balls.

00:31:04.330 --> 00:31:07.048
Do you remember when 1-900 was like a thing?

00:31:07.541 --> 00:31:08.887
Can we talk about that?

00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:17.704
Like we were concerned about 1-900 numbers, like we're currently concerned about artificial intelligence, we were, I feel like I was.

00:31:17.704 --> 00:31:19.069
Why were you concerned.

00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:20.646
It just was so awful.

00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:21.565
It is shocking.

00:31:21.886 --> 00:31:26.106
Can you believe that, like you, can call a number and just be charged all this money?

00:31:26.387 --> 00:31:27.592
oh, you were worried about the money.

00:31:27.592 --> 00:31:30.864
Well, it was like a dollar 50 a minute.

00:31:30.943 --> 00:31:32.388
It was like a dollar 15 minute.

00:31:32.388 --> 00:31:38.929
And yes, I was worried about the money because I was a minor so I was worried my parents were gonna be like you're gonna call?

00:31:38.929 --> 00:31:39.791
Were you wanting to call?

00:31:39.791 --> 00:31:40.280
I did.

00:31:40.280 --> 00:31:44.561
I did because I just wanted to understand, like I wanted to understand.

00:31:44.741 --> 00:31:51.039
I've never heard this before cat uh make that that you got to put that in the title.

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.589
I feel like it mislabels me 1-900 numbers.

00:31:55.589 --> 00:32:07.252
She just like sat up I got very uncomfortable oh wait I just what I feel like I'm calling it once as with like friends and like to see what it was.

00:32:07.333 --> 00:32:08.454
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

00:32:08.454 --> 00:32:10.859
I did not regularly call 1-900.

00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:11.723
Wait but did you talk to?

00:32:11.763 --> 00:32:17.628
someone, no, I just like called and listened and it was like hi.

00:32:17.669 --> 00:32:19.300
My name is Hi.

00:32:19.300 --> 00:32:20.501
This is Daniel.

00:32:20.501 --> 00:32:22.984
I am a very yes, okay, and I'm a very hot man with sweaty pecs.

00:32:22.984 --> 00:32:23.405
Hey, this is.

00:32:23.425 --> 00:32:30.714
Daniel, daniel, yes, and I'm a very hot man with sweaty pecs and I can't wait to take your call.

00:32:30.714 --> 00:32:35.565
Press 1 for 30 more seconds.

00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:41.585
So, yes, I feel sure that I did it with friends.

00:32:41.585 --> 00:32:43.314
I don't think I would have done that by myself, but who knows?

00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:45.223
Oh my gosh, I forgot.

00:32:45.223 --> 00:32:45.258
Sure that I did it with friends.

00:32:45.258 --> 00:32:45.596
I don't think I would have done that by myself, but who knows?

00:32:45.596 --> 00:32:48.516
Oh my gosh, I forgot about one 900 numbers, yeah.

00:32:49.037 --> 00:32:49.778
They were a thing.

00:32:50.219 --> 00:32:53.333
They were a thing I just had another thing pop in my head, me too.

00:32:53.333 --> 00:32:53.836
What was?

00:32:53.957 --> 00:32:57.128
it Well, okay, so were you a sticker collector as a kid?

00:32:57.128 --> 00:32:59.007
I was a stamp collector.

00:32:59.580 --> 00:33:00.846
I'm a sticker collector now.

00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:05.921
Are you collector?

00:33:05.921 --> 00:33:06.602
I'm a sticker collector now.

00:33:06.602 --> 00:33:06.982
Yeah, you are okay.

00:33:06.982 --> 00:33:07.644
Do you utilize the stickers?

00:33:07.664 --> 00:33:08.666
do you like put them places or do you save them?

00:33:08.666 --> 00:33:08.968
No, uh, both.

00:33:08.968 --> 00:33:10.730
I save some, I don't know why.

00:33:10.730 --> 00:33:12.020
There are reasons in my brain.

00:33:12.020 --> 00:33:19.285
Some of them are like I'm gonna save them for my car that's currently dead and I'm still not paying for and not driving trauma.

00:33:19.285 --> 00:33:33.035
Most of them go on my fridge in the garage or on in the rv or on a cooler the yeti cooler, okay, and did either of you use trapper keepers?

00:33:33.415 --> 00:33:43.415
oh, I loved it for sure I had a conversation with someone who's only a few years older than me the other day, who had never heard of a trapper keeper how is that possible?

00:33:43.415 --> 00:33:45.445
I don't know I said the same thing to her.

00:33:45.445 --> 00:33:54.903
I was like this I can't fathom how you don't know I mean a trapper keeper was everything, oh everything, and then, when they had like, the animals on them, oh yeah, you had to get lisa frank.

00:33:54.943 --> 00:34:13.309
Yes, yes, yeah, that was too old for that and that was too girly for me yeah, I didn't like yeah, the reason I ask is I read something that one of our listeners posted the other day Okay, if you were the type of kid that hoarded stickers because you couldn't commit to sticking them on anything, congratulations.

00:34:13.309 --> 00:34:14.485
You're an anxious adult.

00:34:15.302 --> 00:34:19.422
Oh my gosh, isn't that awesome, sarah, you are.

00:34:21.769 --> 00:34:22.190
I am.

00:34:25.382 --> 00:34:28.708
And the password is anxiety.

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Oh my God, that's hilarious.

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Do you guys watch celebrity password?

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No, no, oh my gosh, it's so entertaining.

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What is there, a channel that I could it's like on, like a, like a major?

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network.

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Yeah, it's like on nbc or something like that, and I think that it maybe it's jimmy fallon.

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I think maybe jimmy fallon's the executive producer, oh cool, um, and he's also on the show.

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And there's this host named kiki who I just think is brilliant and beautiful and funny and like she's the best host hostess, and um, and what they do is they bring in like a person from like regular society, and each person from regular society has a partner who is a celebrity coach, and one is always Jimmy Fallon, and then the other one is like a guest kind of celebrity each week, and so basically, what they do is they work together and let's just say, for example, let's say that the password is unicorn.

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The audience knows that the password is unicorn and I know it's unicorn, but you don't.

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And so what I say is I say horse and you say unicorn.

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Well, you don't know that If I just said horse.

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Oh, I would say barn Flying.

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Oh, is this like the $5,000 password?

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Something like that.

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Like the pyramid thing.

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No different.

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Oh, Betty White used to do this.

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And so did Lucille Ball.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, horse barn Flying.

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And I'm supposed to connect flying and horse.

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I mean, if you do, if I choose to, I don't know, if I didn't know it was unicorn, I would not put that together.

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Okay, what would you put?

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Like flying Horn, e this is what happens on the show.

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This is what happens.

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Magical, magical.

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Well, I know it's a unicorn.

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And now?

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Now, what kiki would say is she would say the clues you have been given are horse, flying horn, magical, oh do you know the?

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Password.

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Oh interesting, and it's so entertaining it's so entertaining, we should watch it tonight?

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yeah, we're watching this tonight, yes cat's spending the night.

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Everyone.

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What in the world?

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It's gonna get wild oh it's.

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I mean we are off the rails.

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I'm gonna be even bell.

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Bell came and she's not freaking out by all the noises we're making.

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She's knocked out.

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She's completely happy.

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Do we have a song to sing?

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Oh, I do.

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Oh, did you see how fast she got in there?

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What is it?

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Put your hand in the hand of a man who steals the water.

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Put your hand in the hand of the man who calms the sea.

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Just look at yourself and look at your brother.

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Listen differently.

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Put your hand in the hand of the man from.

00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:43.905
Galilee oh wow, it's a 70s like spiritual.

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You don't know this song.

00:37:45.688 --> 00:37:50.143
Oh my god, it's so I'm obsessed with it why, I don't, where did you hear it?

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Last I heard it on a tv show, and so then I was like oh my god, I remember that song from my childhood.

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Who sings that?

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So I went and found it.

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I don't remember who they are and I have it.

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I have it in my favorites in Spotify.

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Oh my gosh, that's really going to mess up your end of year Spotify.

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Well oh you don't like Maggie Rogers for the 17th year in a row, nope, now she's moved on to 70 spirituals.

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I do love a spiritual.

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We love you guys.

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Bye, touch us, reach out and touch us.

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