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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Hey, hi, hey guys.
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Oh, we're announcing, okay, any other?
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Oh, sarah didn't get to tell anyone about her boo-boos while she was on tour.
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No, oh no, sarah, you don't have a boo-boo person out there, don't worry, I've caught moose up on all of the boo-boos and scratches and bruises.
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I think how many there was, at least like 12.
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There were several, mostly bruises and a few scratches.
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Now, is there an abusive situation going on, or like you got to?
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Tell our listeners what to get beaten up.
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Yeah, tell us about your new job, sarah.
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You don't have to share the artist, but tell us what you're doing.
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I am out on tour with an artist Started in.
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Well, last weekend was my first run of shows and it'll go through mid-June and my job is the immersive director and so I am in charge of setting up multiple photo op kind of set pieces out in the concourse and on the main entry plazas for all of the fans to experience as they enter into the arenas.
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The idea is for them to enter into the experience of the tour.
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That's really cool, that's smart, it's really fun.
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It's a lot of work, it's a lot of manual labor.
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I have help, but I'm still doing working my ass off.
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Good for you, that's good, it's fun.
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I love having a job, but just something.
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I love having something to pour my effort and energy and passion into.
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Yeah, it fits you very well, it really does, and I've had gigs here and there and I'm doing things.
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I've always got something going on, but this is the first full-time thing I've had in a while and it feels good to have something to just pour all of my energy into this one thing instead of having to just gig and split up my attention elsewhere.
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So it's good.
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I'm excited.
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Good, that's awesome.
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So how are these set pieces hurting you?
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How are you getting hurt?
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Well, you know it's funny, I almost never remember how I'm getting hurt.
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I have this it's like a four and a half inch scratch down my leg.
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I don't know how I got that scratch, but I got it on the first day and someone else pointed it out to me.
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I like to think of Sarah as let me start over I like to think about Sarah as a I was about to say the freaking same damn thing perpetually as a seven-year-old boy that has fallen out of a tree.
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But that's just part of the excitement of climbing and so like there might be a broken bone here and there.
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No, I've never broken a bone Never.
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I'm very safe.
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I do get bumps and scratchies.
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Cat's missing a few of my fingers.
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Cat's missing a finger.
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Well, cat, how'd you get rid of those two fingers?
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Well no, I was just I was just.
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You tricked us yeah.
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I'm a magician, I mean that in itself is worth being a patron Gosh.
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Yeah, look at this, Is this a new?
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Like a double flip-off.
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Are you in a gang?
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What are you doing?
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I'm just trying to show you my three broken bones.
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Wait currently.
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No, they've been broken.
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Oh, okay, okay, great, yeah, all of them were on your left hand.
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The fingers that are extended are the broken ones.
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Yeah, oh, I see.
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Yeah, that ring finger.
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It looks like it got caught in a conveyor belt or something.
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It did get caught in my sister's dog's collar.
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Oh, my God, my fingers oh my God, it broke my finger.
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And do you remember how this one broke Moose?
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No, but I'm not getting blamed for it.
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I know you're not, but you were there when it happened.
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Well, remind me, this is when I caught a football before we went and jumped out of a plane together.
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Did that really break?
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I do remember that it did.
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Yeah, yeah, so the football.
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I gotta be honest.
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You should just say it was from skydiving.
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That's way cooler than catching a football before we went skydiving yeah that's true.
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Actually, my parachute went out and this is all I broke was my finger.
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But then that would be not telling the truth.
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And I like to tell the truth, I'm such a little goody-two shoes.
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We are a nonfiction podcast, people we tell the truth.
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And this one, sarah and Moose, I mean this is a show about boo-boos, yeah.
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Yeah, it's Sarah and Moose.
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You guys were here when I broke this one.
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Remind us, I am on trauma overload.
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I can't take on anyone else Me too.
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It's when I threw myself and one of our colleagues off of a four-wheeler.
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It almost killed me.
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You guys, this four-wheeler.
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I have tried to put that out of my memory.
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If you've been listening for a while you know the story, but this four-wheeler accident nearly killed Kat.
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It rolled over on her.
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Actually it wasn't very hurt, but it was scary.
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It almost landed on top of me at full force 9.8 meters per second squared rolling down a hill.
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Rolling down a hill.
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It was the angel of the Lord who protected me.
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The angel of the Lord, it wasn't the Lord.
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It was their angels.
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Well, some people would argue that they're one and the same and I don't need to get into that theological debate.
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Oh, why, not Okay, we can Okay.
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Back to the forerunner.
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Is God the same as God's angels?
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I want to stay on that.
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The best part about that event is that we had just gotten there.
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We hadn't started the event that was the pre-like.
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let's go look at the property we're going to talk about God and the universe and how they are for us.
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I think we were there a full 22 minutes and we got the fuck out, yeah, and the only thing that had to happen is I almost had to die.
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I was behind you and I just remember, once I got up to where you were, you were under it and I thought this is not okay.
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Not good, I've never ran that fast Well and I've never run very fast, but I've never, I've never cleaved to my best friend.
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Cleaved Like that day.
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Like I don't know the right word.
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Can you look up cleave, I can see what cleave is.
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I know husband cleaves to their wife and I felt like.
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I felt like what I really needed in that moment.
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Are you husband and?
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I'm the wife.
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No, no, no, this means to glue, to adhere, to join, to stick.
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I picture cleaving with somebody Putting their legs around me.
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What's funny is isn't that also like?
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Doesn't it kind of also mean the opposite?
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Like a cleaver is like a meat.
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Cleaver separates things Well yeah, skin muscle.
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I don't know what a meat cleaver is.
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Oh, but can we go back to like when, when I was very scared and I needed you?
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And I was there, I allowed the cleaving.
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And I know, and it just like I was, so thankful, like I was so thankful.
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And then like having Sarah there is like this rock, steady, like guys go to the hospital.
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Yeah, check out your non broken bones.
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You don't have to worry about it.
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Yeah, yeah, so.
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I was just really grateful to if I had that near death experience.
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I'm glad that I had it with you guys is what I'm trying to say.
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Yeah, I just, it was great.
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I mean soon after everything fell apart.
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Covid happened.
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Well, not just that, our company fell, it was the beginning of the end, probably because we wrecked.
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We wrecked our clients.
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Four wheeler.
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Or they wrecked us one or the other.
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Anyway, maybe they were trying to kill us.
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Anyway, you guys, this is gonna be a great episode because I just came from a therapy appointment, so I haven't quite processed my trauma.
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I'm still processing it.
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But can I dive in and tell you, because both of you, can somebody give a recap of the crying doll and how she came into our existence, the blood coming from her eyes?
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I would like to try, may I try, please.
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Okay, so, moose, I have heard you talk about viewing yourself kind of as a house with many rooms in it, and the house has people living in certain rooms, and in one of these rooms there is a seven year old girl that is sitting in the middle of the room crying and she's like all like balled up, like just sitting there like holding her knees, and for some reason I have laid it upon to you, upon that her, that she's crying blood and she yeah, that's what I remember.
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Well, I don't think you're wrong at this point.
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I used to feel very like you had appanced me, like you had cleaved to my inner child that was grieving.
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But so here's what happened today.
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So I knew today was gonna be an important therapy session, just because of what's going on in my life emotionally and well in every way, if I'm being honest.
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So today felt like okay, perfect timing.
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Sometimes therapy appointments feel like what the hell am I gonna talk about?
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And sometimes it's like, ooh, that's perfect.
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And I walked into this one and gave a little bit of context to what's going on in my life and then we immediately go into parts work which I'm a huge fan of and my therapist.
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We identify very quickly four parts that each have something to say, and three of those parts were critical parts and like one of them would say like da, da, da.
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And then I would say, oh, that same one is saying this and she's like oh, so there's another person in the room and I'm like gosh, I literally started laughing at one point.
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I was like they're multiplying, I'm like.
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But what is interesting is I was fully in like trans, like mode when I was processing, kind of some of these feelings and what originally started as this in my mind I was picturing this baby laying on the ground, throwing a fit, like just screaming, like the baby shouldn't be able to talk, but it's saying I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die.
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And it was just like throwing a fit and at first I'm like whoa, all these years of therapy if you know anything about internal family systems like kind of the goal is to talk to the grandpuba, which is the inner child right Like the exiled child that we've left behind.
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And so today was very tender.
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All this was kind of coming up and I thought there she is, she's a little baby.
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She was underneath a pew.
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I have no idea the religious trauma that might have.
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I was just gonna say hello.
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Religious trauma.
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Somebody left her under a pew and she's talking at like age zero.
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That in itself is traumatizing, but anyway.
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So all this is happening and my therapist I am a sitter name because she's so fantastic she all of a sudden real, for some reason, recognizes that I actually need to tell this baby to chill for a minute in a little bit different ways and said what about this one over here?
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And I had said something she had written down that she thought that one had said All this to say.
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Halfway through I realized that this baby is battery powered and is just like a red herring that this other part over here threw out to get my attention.
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And this isn't even a part like it was weird.
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I've never experienced anything like that.
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But the whole point is she said I want you at this point to look at how everyone is facing this baby and paying attention to it.
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And she said, even though they're annoyed by it, because that's what their feeling was.
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She was like they're paying attention to it.
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How does that feel?
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And that was kind of the system working it out.
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So I would pay attention to this feeling is what it was.
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But I did not have the heart to tell my therapist that the baby was battery powered.
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That's sorry, I guess that's not funny.
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It was funny.
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I thought it was very funny.
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It is funny Liz.
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In my mind, if they really want me to go into my inner self.
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The six year old who was having trouble with the baby who was whining really needed the work, which is what we did the work around, thank goodness.
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But I think she put that battery powered screaming baby through under a pew so I would pay attention then when I got internal I know this all sounds crazy 12 times a session I go.
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I don't have any of this, shit's true, and my therapist just starts laughing.
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I mean, yeah, your therapist is saying, now that you're talking to this part, how are you?
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What is it saying?
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I mean, you're trusting that what's coming up is what it's saying, but sure hell no.
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Yeah, and it's like the practitioner is kind of, in essence, a guide right, like just kind of helping you figure your shit out, and it's not terribly different than the body work modality that I like to practice.
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Yeah, okay.
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So can I get a little clarity around the battery powered baby?
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Yes, please, okay.
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So who was it that generated the battery powered baby?
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that actually wasn't a real baby, yep that would be the six year old version of me, or a part that is six years old, and she is the one that criticizes.
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Say that I'm like I'm not doing good, whatever that means I'm not doing well, she's the one that goes tough it up.
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Yeah, pull up your bootstraps.
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Yep, you're not normal.
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Normal people can handle this, you know, and she's six.
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But what she really needs is to be held, yeah, and like go, is it?
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You know?
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Is it tough being so tough when you're six years old?
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Like that's shit she needs.
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Yeah, you don't have to be in charge of this.
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You're six, right, you're six.
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Be a six year old, you can actually just go play.
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Yeah yeah, wow, and so was her creating the battery powered baby.
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Was that fun?
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Well, I think she was throwing a fit and she was just trying to get some attention and she threw it under there, but ultimately she got attention, which is what's going on.
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How are you feeling All of that?
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So, yeah, it was more like a kid growing a fit and you know, that's all.
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Well, to me, I think of the that, that book that we've talked about before the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I think, is what it's called and one of the characters had dueling brains, oh yeah, and he was so smart that he taught his other brain to not be able to figure out what this brain had already figured out.
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So it's like he was, like it, intentionally working against himself.
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Yeah, and so to me, like when it's like your six year old throws the baby that's a battery powered baby under a pew, it's like is that a distraction?
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Is that a call for attention?
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And then what is the not wanting to tell your therapist that it's battery powered?
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Well, I think she knew even if that was an actual part of me, I think she knew somehow she's frigging brilliant that that wasn't where the attention needed to go.
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It was very interesting, so I didn't.
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I didn't feel so bad, except in my I tell her everything and I just was like no, not doing that today, not telling her that that is a motorized doll.
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That's getting weird.
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I do parts work and I've learned that some of my parts are not even human, they're electronic.
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Like that makes me feel like you might be living in a society that is grappling with the ethics and morality around artificial intelligence, maybe.
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I mean, I love artificial intelligence.
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Personally, I do think that we have a problem when it comes to artistry.
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We have to protect, yeah, and you know, deep fake stuff is awful.
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We need to make sure that's regulated, but I do think it's very interesting that we can take something.
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And the thing I worry about with AI, though, is that things will start looking more standardized, because if people start leaning on AI more and more and more, you could see how you know, say that you're like oh, write me a business plan for this idea.
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Well, if you don't take that and make it your own, it could become sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy that things start looking more whitewashed and standardized.
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Does that make sense?
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Well, it does To me.
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It's like to me.
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It's like if you say, write me a business plan and it writes you a business plan, and then you quote, unquote, make it your own, you're starting at a different place than having nothing.
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Yeah.
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So, why wouldn't everything start to look, smell, taste, feel the same and it's like?
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Does that mean that the earth becomes flat?
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Yes, yes.
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Also, there are people like me who need a template to spark an idea.
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I'm kind of that person, and so that's how I use AI is I'm like, before I'm going to write a paper for school, I will say what are your 12 key points around this topic, and I would just get some ideas to spark my paper, and then I separate that and I go and do my paper.
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But again, I'm depending on that instead of using my own imagination.
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I could get it.
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I could get.
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It's not any different than really Googling, though.
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It just puts it together a little bit for you, although, whatever, we're all robots.
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That's what I'm getting at.
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Is that the grand reveal of today's?
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episode it is we are robots.
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So you're motorized battery, not motorized, you're battery operated.
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Baby is actually AI yeah.
