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Welcome to the Cat and Moose Podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Oh my gosh.
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Look at this.
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Kat got me this Parks of the USA metal water bottle and you put your stickers on on all the national parks that you've been to and it is so special.
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It's so cool and I had the best time putting my stickers on Did you kind of go down memory lane and kind of reminisce about your different adventures?
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I did actually, and there were a few that I had that Sarah didn't have, and vice versa, and we were very competitive about it.
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Ooh, it was there like a winner.
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No, I'm always the winner, clearly.
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That's also been my experience.
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Right Sarah.
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I don't remember there being a competition.
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There wasn't really any conflict either.
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I mean, there's enough conflict in the world.
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Do we really need to fight over national parks and who's?
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been where?
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Yeah, lord knows we don't need anymore.
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And I thought that by giving you guys each the same gift it would eliminate any sort of like deep competition, you know.
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But then I thought well, but then what if they both want the black one?
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Or what if they both want the white one?
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And then it just, oh, it turned into an absolute meltdown for me.
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The colors were pretty easy to determine, yeah, good.
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But yeah, I, it took me a good like 45 minutes to put the stickers on, because you got to get them perfectly on the little spots, yeah, and I just had a moment where I was like I mean, this is the perfect exercise for someone that has a brain like mine.
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Like I just really enjoyed the text style-ness of like doing a project like that and I don't do puzzles like puzzle.
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If you were like what is the worst thing you could get me or any one of my family, the answer would be a puzzle.
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Hey, hey, hey.
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When I first met Sarah, my mom had just was getting over an illness and she, amazon primed a puzzle, thinking like I know you guys are spending time together, this will be fun, yeah, and I showed my mom when she was alive.
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I was like, look at my friend Sarah got us because I didn't want to put any bad juju on it.
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You know what I mean.
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And my mom said why would she do that?
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Look, mom, she got us a puzzle.
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Why would she do that?
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Which is very much my mom and also solidified that that's not how our brains are built in this family.
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Yeah.
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Well, and it's so funny to me because, like Sarah, you love puzzles like puzzles 3d, puzzles like the whole nine yards.
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Yeah, I just.
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I just completed one the other day and I started it and got it all done in one afternoon.
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It was so fun and of course, by the time I got it done, there were four to six pieces missing, because the prior time it got done my cat threw the pieces around the house.
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So who knows?
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Where did those puzzle pieces end up, is the question.
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Well, I remember finding a few after the fact, and who knows where I put those, you know, yeah.
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Well, in you saying that you, your cat, threw it around the house or slung it around the house, and I remember your exact words.
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It made me like have this vision of Bella as like a pizza chef, like going Like with the puzzle.
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It was actually Montana.
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Oh, it was, and yeah, it's exactly what you think.
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Just imagine a tiny little scrawny four legged creature throwing small pies around.
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Yes, that's amazing Pies.
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Montana is the cat that could murder another animal in the house and Sarah would be like there's no way it was her.
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There's like no way.
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I mean right, like this cat can do no wrong whatsoever.
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Yeah, I mean if someone throws up or shits in the floor which rarely happens, but it does happen it's never Montana.
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I don't think so.
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Actually I don't.
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It's either.
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Archie or Bella.
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Sorry guys, so many, it's true.
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Well, I am now having a hot flash, so I've got to take my beanie off.
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Hang on a second.
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So, kat, I decided to talk Sarah and our friend Ruthie into going out yesterday, which really wasn't a great idea.
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We've gotten a ton of snow we need to talk about that but I had not washed this hair of mine in a couple days and it wasn't looking cute, and so I thought I'm just going to wear a beanie, like through the whole lunch and it'll be fine, and I get in there and I can't take it off Like it.
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I mean, this is not hair that I'm just being dramatic about.
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This is not hair that we'll see the light of day.
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I'm sitting there getting having a hot flash and I'm just lifting it up a little bit.
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Trying to let some heat out, but I could not take it off.
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So kudos to you, because your hair looks great without yours.
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Oh well, thank you.
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I just washed my hair today because I was that person yesterday as well, I was too.
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I was, oh wait, I already told that story.
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Of course I was.
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Well, and then I said I said to our friend, I said I think that my hair looks a little bit greasy.
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And she looked at me and she goes yeah, you need a bath, that's a good friend.
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We need friends around us that tell us it's time, it's time.
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Yeah.
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But you know you don't take baths, so that doesn't even make any sense.
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Right, yeah, it was just kind of funny, like it was just Do you think you could ever come around to that?
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because I I couldn't live without my baths.
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Yeah, Baths are great.
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I don't think I could come around to not being able to live without a bath, but I certainly could come around to taking a bath.
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I mean, I just say something.
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No, no, I'm just.
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I'm clarifying that, like I will take a bath, I will not change my habitual ways in that way to take baths all the time.
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You know, I just think it's gross.
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I think it's really gross and kind of along the lines of like self discovery and self worth and self preservation preservation.
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So I woke up today and I went to the bathroom and when I got done using the bathroom I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, oh my God, I woke up and realized how fat I am today.
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I'm huge.
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You guys Like my face?
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That is not true.
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My face is so fat right now.
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That is not true.
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I am not receiving that on your behalf.
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That is not, and you know what the word fat is so terrible.
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I just want to say that.
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I and I don't know what the right word is, because I'm with you, it's the easiest term to go to.
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But like, what about today?
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Like why?
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Today Were you like?
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Oh, I know what you mean.
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There are days where you're like Can I get any bigger?
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Well, I was thinking this morning and the reason I think that that it was super noticeable to me today and thanks for reminding me.
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I look like this every day.
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Thank you for that.
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I didn't say that that was you.
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I tried a new recipe last night a green chicken curry and it was really, really salty and I thought I'm probably going to wake up with oh yeah, it's just so dear yeah.
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And it's like.
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So I think that, on top of my current state of being, my eyes were also a bit swollen, so it just like it made my face looks and it's making my face look so huge and you know, like I was thinking about our podcast today and recording today and I have so much to complain about and so much to bitch about Right so much.
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We are a complete podcast.
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I have so much to bitch about that.
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It's like I don't think.
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If I don't change my attitude, I think we're going to lose listeners.
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So I have renamed myself today.
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Catitude of Gratitude.
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Oh I love that.
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It's good.
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I'm going to have an attitude of gratitude.
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I'm still going to bitch about some things, but I'm going to also remind all of us so much that we have to be grateful for.
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Yeah, that's great, I agree.
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I agree, bitching, I too have a new saying that goes around this household, and that is I'm going to need you to raise your vibration.
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Yeah, and Sarah has adopted it, which sounds very new age, which is exactly who I am.
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Great, yes, but in all honesty, like look, you have a couple conversations about what's happening in your own life or the world, either one.
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If you could totally just swirl right.
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Right.
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OK, goodpropeller, zachary Williamson, that does not produce anything positive.
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It just it literally makes you probably fall into habits that you hate about yourself.
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To be honest, Well, and it makes me go like you know how people invented like Da Vinci invented a bunch of stuff, and like Socrates invented stuff, and like Albert Einstein invented stuff.
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It's like I'm like today I'm gonna be an inventor and I'm gonna invent the downward Fibonacci spiral.
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Oh yeah let's not do that that sounds bad.
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Well, it is bad, because it's just the same like misery over and over and it's just me recognizing and validating what you're saying is that it's like, if you get stuck in, that you know it's like it's just a cycle of doom.
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And I was thinking.
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I was also going to the bathroom again today, apparently, I think, when I use the restroom and I was thinking about how, in the past few years, we have as a society, as a whole planet, we have dealt with war, we have dealt with a global pandemic, we have dealt with all kinds of just terribleness in general, and like it's amazing to me that any of us think that our nervous systems aren't completely shot.
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Yeah, and they are like 10 times over.
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Yes, they are.
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I saw this to what you're explaining.
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I saw this thing on Instagram today that was talking about how CEOs have finally come around to realize that people don't have to be at work 40 hours a week, which is encouraging.
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That that is the theme.
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Do they change it to 80?
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No, but then I saw another Instagram thing that was talking about how we were never built to be working 40 hours a week.
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Like that is not what we were built.
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They said it was actually a way to keep the woman at home, so the man could work and that could be his main thing is his work, and is that like an American thing?
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Well, I would guess.
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So I don't know, though that's a great question, but it just made me think, like of course, we're burned out.
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I mean, I say all the time like, yeah, I haven't been very well for about five years, and then I always just assume I put 2019 in there because that's when my mom passed away and that's when some shit began.
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But no, like it's not just me, like there's wars and there is a major pandemic and we had to learn how to do things all over again because of that and I'm still not functional right.
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Yeah, I mean, you are functional Moose.
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Like we couldn't do this podcast every week.
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Well, let's be honest, if it weren't for Sarah, hey, this is 45 minutes of my day.
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You don't know, maybe I just pull this.
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Well, you do know, actually I forget, I know, you, you just pull it together for 45 minutes, that's all we need, guys.
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This is the best I got.
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And then Sarah goes and sits in a dungeon for eight hours to listen to us say the same shit over and, over and over.
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She's all right with it.
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I mean, it's not the same shit.
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Well, this is true.
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Some of it is.
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I mean, it's true.
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But it's life's lessons, yeah, and we're all experiencing them, and the rest of it is just funny as shit.
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We're all going through, yeah it's the quirks of being human, that's what we talk about, it's what we do and, in my spirit of having an attitude of gratitude, one of the things I was thinking of today, when I was thinking about everything I wanted to gripe about, is just how incredibly much I look forward to this time together each week, and I have so much fun doing this with you guys, and I have so much fun interacting with our listeners, and I just want to thank you guys and by you guys I mean Moose and producer Sarah, but also our listeners.
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Thank you so much for taking this journey with us Very very grateful, me too.
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So there's been snow, I love it.
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There have been deaths?
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Oh, there have.
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Yes, what do we need to catch up on?
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There have been deaths because of the snow.
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Oh yeah, it's awful, it's so funny.
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I'm not trying to laugh at that, I'm laughing at OK.
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So I really want to know, because I feel like people ask the question how are you, how are you guys really Like right now?
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How are you for real?
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Yeah, this is one of the things that it really helps me to think about.
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I think it's really important to have compassion for the artists that we work with who are quote unquote public figures.
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Like I've remained like frustrated over the course of my adulthood and my career.
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It like why is being a public figure something that seems to make someone really insecure?
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It's like if you're just really good at a thing, why don't you just go do it?
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Like I don't understand where the insecurity comes from?
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But we've been doing the podcast for several years.
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I find myself having similar thought patterns of going well, what is so and so going to think if they're listening, and what is so and so going to think if they're listening.
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And so when you ask, how am I doing, it's like which version of my ego am I willing to actually put out there in the world?
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That's good Kat, oh thanks.
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Thank you, no, I keep going.
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I'm just saying, like that's some real honesty right there.
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Yeah, it is real honest.
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And so I'm not doing great man, like I'm not doing great, I'm suffering from, and I really don't want to go anywhere.
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So I don't know why I'm saying I'm suffering from cabin fever, because I love being at my house, but it's like there's something about there being eight inches of snow on the ground and in Nashville that's like the end of the world.
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You know, it's like nothing functions with this amount of snow on the ground, and so I think there's a little bit of that.
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I was talking with a client yesterday and we were talking about how we feel like both of us are kind of being triggered by all this time at home back to March of 2020.
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Yes, I agree and going like does this mean that we're going to have to live this way and that our careers are going to change forever because of this pandemic thing and like?
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So we were just talking about like at the beginning of the podcast.
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We were talking about, like, our nervousness, like our nervous systems are probably just completely shot, and in the new mentioned at a second ago too, then we do things to quote, unquote, help us feel better or to cope, and then that makes us even more miserable.
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You know and I was reading something the other day and we've talked about this before on the podcast the concept of dopamine and how dopamine is kind of like the hormone or the chemical in your body that like makes you feel elated or high or euphoric or whatever.
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You know whatever word that you want to attach to it.
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And this article that I read said that the amount of dopamine that you get from having sex is like 40 milligrams I don't know how it's measured, but let's just say it's 40 something and the amount of dopamine that you get from drinking alcohol is 400 times that.
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Oh, wow.
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And so, like the basic human pleasure of having sex is 10 times less powerful than what happens to the body when we drink, that's crazy and it's like why in the world do we think that this is easy stuff to just go like I'm having a bad week and so now I'm just going to go run six miles?
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You know it's like right, it's very, very complicated.
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Listen, it is.
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I think that is so true as well, as someone who used to drink a lot quit drinking and now I drink tiny bit, but that first drink is the best drink.
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Let's be honest, right and the only reason you have more drinks after that is because of how it's making you feel Right, Like yes, it's flavorful whatever it is, but generally it's.
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I want to sustain this feeling.
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Yes, yes, yep.
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And I.
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It is like now.
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I have a different sort of check-in with myself, but I have to literally talk myself out if I'm really feeling good after that first drink.
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I generally only have two drinks now, but if I'm feeling good after that first drink, it's really hard for me to not slide in and be like I want to keep feeling this way.
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So of course, that makes sense you know, the problem is after 40, the next day you feel like crap.
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It's true.
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And then you wake up thinking that you're really, really fat and then you realize, wait a minute, this doesn't have to do with alcohol, this has to do with sodium.
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So it's like I spent the first 10 minutes of my day in an emotional battleground today.
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You know, it's like God, do you ever like rub your belly and tell your belly how much you love it?
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Or?
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is that just?
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I mean, I have to do that kind of stuff, I have to do that kind of stuff to come to actually connect with my body, Because my thing is I don't.
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Touch is important for me to receive and I like to give touch as well, but I don't know how to do that for myself and I'm not going anywhere.
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Weird, don't worry.
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But like I've said before, and when I think about you I touch myself.
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Oh, I don't want anybody else who sang that song?
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The Divinals.
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The Divinals, yes, I did not know that song meant, what it did when.
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I was young.
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I did it.
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I really did and I was just singing it and somebody was like do you know what that means?
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And I'd never even thought of it.
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I was like wow, I mean, I remember listening to that song and screaming it.
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I don't want anybody else.
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Me too.
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I thought it was like an FU song to the world, like I don't need anybody, and I was like I touch myself, oh, and I didn't have a clue that it meant down there, oh my.
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God.
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Oh goodness, maybe it didn't.
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Maybe it didn't.
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Maybe she just meant from a body work perspective, right.
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I don't want anybody else.
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I'm just going to do acupressure on myself.
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Exactly, I think she was a body worker.
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I think she was too.
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Wow, wow.
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Okay, speaking of touching people, sarah, do you mind playing that link I sent you?
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I want to get your guys' thoughts on this idea, but I'll just let you play it first.
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Okay, here we go Free advice from a licensed trauma therapist.
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If you're reaching out to people, if you're making bids we call them bids for connection.
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So anytime you walk into a room, if you said something out loud that you wouldn't say when you were by yourself, that's considered a bid for connection.
