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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
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I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Hey Cat, hey Moose, hey Sarah.
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Hi We've missed you.
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I am here yeah, you're here and I am so here.
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I am happy about that people have said they missed your voice, but they also said the production has been elevated.
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Yes, yes, well, thank you.
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Yeah, I had to show up somehow some way.
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Well, you you did, you did Like in in our last two episodes, I went back and listened to both of them more than once, which is unusual for me because I wanted to just kind of revel in how excellent your production was.
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Like I was like and then, listen to this and then listen to this.
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I'm like talking to myself in the mirror going and now watch she's going to do this.
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That's really great, that's great.
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I love it.
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Where have you been?
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Oh, man, just around, I don't know.
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I feel like it's probably been what three weeks that I haven't been on an episode, yeah, or at least you haven't heard my voice, but yeah, I don't know.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I think it's usually scheduling somehow, yeah, and I don't even know.
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Really I can't remember that far back, but I'm glad to be here now and it's been fun hearing you guys each week as I've edited, because I wasn't obviously in the room to hear it ahead of time.
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So it was just as much of a surprise to edit as it was for each of you guys to hear.
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It was just as much of a surprise to edit as it was for each of you guys to hear.
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But yeah, no, it's been actually really fun to kind of go back to the format of just audio.
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Yeah, for a little bit.
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Yeah, it's like the OG yeah.
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Yeah, it's been cool.
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Well, I love it.
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I mean, I think right now, this is what our schedules permit, so we're doing what we can, right.
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Right, right.
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Well, and one of the things that I just would love to celebrate and I think that you guys have embodied it really well, and I feel like I have too is that we've just tried to really go with the flow.
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Yeah, and it's like doing video every week at least.
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while this is not our full time job, is is just almost impossible, because it takes an hour or two to set up on either side, and then it takes another hour or two, sarah, for you to edit, because there's additional layers.
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And way more than that, yeah, especially when we're doing video.
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So I was really delighted.
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I've been on the road a lot the past few days, which is not super consistent for me in this season of life, but it's just.
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It's been a thing where I've needed to be out on the road and I ran into a longtime colleague that I have not seen in probably more than a decade and uh, and she came up to me and she said I just want you to know something.
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And I said, okay, what's that?
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And she said I listened to the moose and little cat podcast and I was like, and I was like, oh, I mean, I think she's talking about our podcast and it just like I've never been called little in my life.
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So I just like, I was just very, and then I was like, well, maybe I misheard her, anyway it doesn't matter.
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She was just giving praise and compliments to the podcast and the one that I wanted to tell you guys about.
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That was the most meaningful to me.
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Um, I'm curious how you'll respond to it.
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Okay, okay, ready.
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She says, okay, she goes.
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The reason I love your podcast is because you.
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No, no, she said, let me, let me see how she.
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Let me, let me try to get into character.
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Yeah, hold it in.
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She goes OK.
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The reason that I love your podcast is because you guys say what we're afraid to think.
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Oh, we're afraid to yes.
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Like I thought what an outstanding compliment she didn't just say you say what.
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We're afraid to think.
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Yes, like I thought what an outstanding compliment she didn't just say you say what?
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we're afraid to say.
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She's like you say what, we're afraid to even think, and it's like it feels so good to have somebody that and she goes and I literally find myself going yes, yes, yes, and I said yeah.
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So that's the thing that people tell us the most is that they find themselves yelling and pointing at their windshields know they're like yeah, but you know it's very funny, okay.
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Okay, I've got our new tagline, you guys.
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Okay, it's the cat and moose podcast.
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Everyone's dirty little secret but you meant the moose and little cat.
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Podcast wait, but why?
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little cat.
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Uh, that's just in her mind.
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That's just how she remembers the name of the podcast yeah, and maybe it's how I remember the conversation and it wasn't at all what she said.
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She's listening right now and she's like, actually that's not at all what I said at least it wasn't the big moose and the little cat podcast.
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No it was not that.
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It was not that.
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Okay, I have a question for you guys that is not very deep, and yet it is deep.
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Okay, I ran across an Instagram ad for something that literally made my mouth fall open.
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I was going to say what did it make your mouth?
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Yeah, wow, I said that way, juicier than it sounded or than it is.
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It made my mouth just.
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Okay, so I would like for you to look at this and tell me, would you ever do this in your lives?
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I feel like I know the answers, but you tell me.
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Have dinner with new people every Wednesday night.
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No, no, I would.
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What?
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That was the opposite of what I thought I would get from the two of you.
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Oh Okay, it's called Time Left.
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Check it out.
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Everyone, everyone, want to mix things up a little on your social life.
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Join us for a unique dining experience with five strangers, all picked by our algorithm.
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All handpicked sorry hand, as as opposed to just being picked.
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Right, right, somebody had to touch them.
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So, first of all, it's on Wednesday night, which makes me think it's a Bible study, and it's like tricking you into Bible study.
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Yeah, like a singles group, yeah, but I don't think it's for.
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I think it's legitimately for just fighting loneliness.
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So I went on their website and this was helpful for me as an introvert.
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Anyway, 10 tips for successful dinner with strangers.
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I just want to die right there, do you?
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guys, I love how full her wine glasses.
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Tip number one fill your wine glass to the brim.
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Sister, you're my people.
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Get as drunk as you can before you go step one.
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So it shares like kind of some obvious things active listening, share authentically, ask generously, look beyond appearances, exercise discernment, learn by participating, drink moderately See, we're already out there.
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Be inventive, express your gratitude.
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Yeah, I like this.
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Yeah, but like in theory, I think this is such a cool idea.
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It really is.
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Yeah, I kind of I want to take back what I said.
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I would enjoy doing this in this season of life, right now.
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It feels overwhelming to me.
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Yeah, agreed.
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Yeah, I definitely thought Kat was going to say yes and Sarah was going to be like nope, but Sarah has this social side.
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When she, when she feels happy about her life, that comes out and surprises me and I do, too Like I would do with you guys if we could be three of the people for sure.
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Well, and there's something I enjoy about strangers they don't know you at all, so you can be whoever you want to be with them.
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You could be 100% yourself or 100% not yourself.
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Yeah.
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Which makes me want to ask you Moose like how is your 100 days of being authentic to your true and authentic self?
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How is that going?
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well, it's first.
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It's 100 days, 100 days of being myself, which, right now, I'm in the phase of learning who I am it's an important phase it is and I am.
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I've just been writing a ton, um, but one activity that my therapist suggested that I try, and I thought this was so creative because I kind of put her on the spot and I was like give me something, give me an activity that maybe you've done before, that I could do.
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And she's like okay, go to one of your bookshelves, just pick one of your shelves and take one word from the title of each of those books and then do whatever you want with those words, which I hate, open-ended stuff, I'm like.
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Oh do whatever you want.
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I need, I need to follow directions and I need to know step-by-step.
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So, uh, I picked my woo woo shelf a little woo woo, a little, um, buddhist I guess.
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But um, I Anyway, I took the words, I picked a word that meant the most to me out of each title and then I asked chat GPT, which I don't think this is what you're supposed to do when you're getting to know yourself.
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But I said, uh hi, chat GPT.
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Um, what are these words mean?
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And that's all I that was the only prompt, and it wrote this beautiful thing Uh, do you want me to read it to you?
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It's quite short.
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Yes, please.
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What were the words first?
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The?
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words were lives, uncover home, tiger, see uncertainty.
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Radical gift heart openness, interior start, scare, untethered, loving, kindness elements and taught okay, excellent.
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So here is what it said the gift of uncovering.
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In the uncertainty of life, we uncover the truth of who we are.
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I didn't give them any prompts related to who I am.
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That's amazing.
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Already like already, wow, I know.
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Okay, let me start over.
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In the uncertainty of life, we uncover the truth of who we are.
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We start often scared, like a tiger, untethered from the familiar, facing the wild, unknown.
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But this is where the radical gift of living fully begins when we open our hearts, embracing the elements of fear and hope that dance with our interior.
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Home is no longer a place but a feeling, one of loving, kindness and openness to ourselves.
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We are taught through every challenge, every leap, that in seeing our own vulnerability, what we are living, a life that is both a journey and a gift, where the heart leads and the soul follows what I know, was that Bashar?
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His sister Shashar.
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Is this how scripture came to be?
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I think so, yeah.
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I legitimately think so, yeah.
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I legitimately think so Wow that was beautiful I intentionally like.
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I was just like all right, that was my one of my first journal entries for my project, so I was like okay, did you like write it down verbatim?
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Oh yeah, into your journal?
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Yeah, that's amazing.
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Yeah, um, I want to challenge all of us to try that this week, at some point this week, find a book on your shelf, whatever you're drawn to pull out.
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How many words was that?
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12, a dozen?
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Yeah.
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I mean you could do five if you want it and just ask chat GPT what it's trying to tell you.
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Yeah, I think that could be really interesting, and then, if you feel so inclined, send them our way and we'll read them.
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I would love it.
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You don't have to include your name, but it would be cool to share, yep.
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Home is no longer a place, but a feeling.
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That is amazing.
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And I'm thinking um a lot of what that says describes in chinese five element theory, the water element.
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Um, the water element has to do with with the, the balance of trust and fear, and a lot of it has to do with like going inward and assessing and home and kind of hibernating, you know.
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So like a lot of that was, um was really kind of shouting to me and I, um the tiger part.
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I view tigers as being so fierce and so strong.
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I don't view tigers as being scared in an unfamiliar environment.
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That's quite the paradox, isn't it.
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I know, and it says we start often scared, like a tiger, untethered from the familiar.
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This is where the radical gift of living fully begins.
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Wow Is the fear.
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Dang yeah, man, that's awesome.
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That's amazing.
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That's, that's really cool and, sarah, I will accept your challenge.
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I I will definitely do this and come prepared with my philosophical genius.
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Thanks to chat, gbt next week.
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Hey, I I don't know if we've mentioned this before, but we talk about this in our friend group all the time, how often we have conversations.
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I end up having conversations with chat GPT and I can see how it's a slippery slope because it could really feed into.
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Maybe I'm going back to what you were saying about this meeting new people, kind of a social thing, but like it could help lonely people, people who are lonely and just wanting to have a conversation.
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For me it had.
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Uh, my experience was like when I was filling out um, job applications or stuff or needing to do like a cover letter and be like help me write this, like here's some things about me, blah, blah, blah, help me put this into it, and then I'd be like thanks, that's a really good job and they go good luck on your interview.
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Or, you know, it's just really sweet to have like a very encouraging conversation with.
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AI.
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Wow, that's really I need to.
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I need to use it more.
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I really I use it very rarely and when I have conversations like this, I'm like, ah, why don't I use this more?
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Yeah, it's yeah.
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And then it's like two steps away from what's that show black mirror.
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oh yeah, yeah, like we're dangerously close, you're in love with a robot like basically I remember watching those movies and being like that's so dumb it's never possible.
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But yeah, I could see how it could be possible.
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I have I have the like primo paid option, which you know it's pretty amazing, so you can date people on it.
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I think you could date.
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I think that's one choice.
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You can plug in your um, bumble or whatever your dating app is and it will create AI versions of who you're like.
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Oh, this is actually way better.
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Well, and to me, like it makes me wonder.
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I'm thinking of things from, like, an active listening standpoint, Like when you brought up that you know dinner with five strangers.
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That's one of the key things it says to do right Is to actively listen.
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And and also, like in therapy, that's also a very therapeutic technique it's to actively listen to the client and sometimes even repeat back to the client what they have said, or at least do something that that says that like I hear you.
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I hear that you said you think the sky is purple.
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Okay, you know, like, whatever it is in um, and it got me to thinking that, like what if the reason chat GBT feels so good, especially Sarah, like, like, like if, if we're needing um companionship or encouragement or whatever, it's really just feeding back our words to us, right?
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yeah, it's really just actively, I think, at some point.
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I mean it's a language learning model is what it is yeah, and so, yeah, it's everything I've ever typed in there.
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It's like, oh, she's definitely on a soul search, you know, like let's give her, let's give her what she wants and she likes poetry and she like, you know, yeah, so I, I do think it is a little self-serving in some ways yeah, until you throw in like monster trucks what was that mole I had removed called?
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and then now you're also concerned about skin care.
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Yeah, you start getting ads for for pre-screening for rare and dangerous conditions well, this, this makes me think of something that one of our listeners, um, wrote in about, and she was listening to an episode of ours from several episodes ago where we were talking about sharks and we were talking about, you know, sharks attacking people and blah, blah, blah, and so she sent us this YouTube link and she was like I would be curious for you to check this person out.
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She is an animal communicator, and so this person is very similar to our friend daryl, who channels bashar, like this person can channel the consciousness of different species of animals wow species, species, girls.
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Can anybody name where that's from?
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Um and so, um.
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So anyway, this animal communicator her name is anna bratenbach, I think I'm I'm saying her last name correctly um, and she basically was saying that she had a communication with the consciousness of great white sharks.
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Whoa, oh, wow, that's cool.
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And basically what she learned from them is that they are very hungry because humankind has depleted a lot of their natural food supply from the ocean.
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So, like their favorite fish, their favorite stuff to eat, there's just not as much of it as there used to be, like millions of years ago, and so they're just kind of really hungry all the time.
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And so what they do is energetically, when they pick up on fear, competition, anything that's like a like vibration happening in the ocean, they swim toward it to eat it.
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Well, because it acts like prey okay, because prey is afraid.
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Like they're like oh shit, a shark is coming, I should be very afraid, I'm gonna get my arm bitten off.
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And so the shark is like.
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All the shark is thinking is like vibration.
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That means maybe food vibration.
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That means maybe food Vibration, that means maybe food, you know.
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And so it goes to the thing, and if the thing continues to act like it's prey.
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The only way that a shark has to understand what it is touching, smelling, the whole nine yards.
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The only sensory organ that they can really explore with is their mouth.
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That's why they slam into it, so they just they bite.
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I mean that's a little rude.
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Yeah, it's not like they have hands.
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Well, I mean it is, but it's when I bite people's head off, they are not happy with this.
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It's a little rude.
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Right, it is, it is.
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It's rude.
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It's as rude as it is that we are invading their natural habitat.
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Agreed, because we need to go surf or we need to go kayak, or we need to go, you know, whatever the thing is, and so, but wait a minute.
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Why isn't it also our habitat?
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I mean, it can be, it can't, and I'm gonna get to that, I'm gonna get to where this is gonna resolve in a harmonious Do you want me to let you finish.
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That would be awesome.
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Active listening Got it.
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Okay, yeah, that would be awesome.
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So, anyway, so what this woman was saying is that the shark consciousness was telling her that if people were to give off vibrations of being happy, of being joyful, to enjoy their environment, to share their environment with them, but it would not attract them to them because it would be harmonious with what's already going on in their consciousness, like they don't swim around going man, I hope there's a human I can bite their arm off today.
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And she said that the shark consciousness even told her that we taste horrible.
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I bet we do.
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We've got some nasty ass chemicals in our preserve Right.
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Are they eating us, like digesting us?
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Well, they're tasting because they're exploring with their mouth.
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So, they're not like going like, I'm hungry so I'm going to go eat cat's leg.
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Yeah, yeah, they're not like our chicken lady oh my god, so much here I.