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Dec. 23, 2023

Hipster Wolves and a Frozen Bra

Hipster Wolves and a Frozen Bra

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Ever found yourself laughing over a lipstick disaster or nursing the bruises from a trip to the blood clinic? Our latest episode is a cocktail of such relatable misadventures and the personal quirks that make us all wonderfully human. From spitting on trees to spirit animals, we traverse the spectrum of self-discovery, diving into the heartwarming to the hilariously absurd. Join us as we swap stories on the oddities of daily life, the richness of personal traditions, and the ways we find connection and meaning in the most unexpected places.

As the year draws to a close, we gather around the warmth of shared experiences and the insights of the Enneagram. Our conversation turns introspective as we navigate the profound influences of personality types on our relationships and self-perception. From nurturing Type Twos, to security-seeking Type Sixes, to the assertive Type Eights, we peel back the layers of our own psyches. Discover how these revelations have transformed our lives, and might offer you a fresh lens through which to view your own journey.

We cap off our chat with a blend of philosophy, pop culture, and a pinch of self-deprecation. Who knew that spitting at the base of a tree or the musings of Jean-Paul Sartre could provoke such deep reflection? We ponder the expectations society places on us—from hairdos to holiday cheer—and wrap things up with a heartfelt nod to the kindness that knits our community together. Thanks to each of you for tuning in, and to our incredible producer, Sara, for making this whimsical ride possible. Here's to embracing all that makes us uniquely human, one quirky step at a time!

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Chapters

00:04 - Exploring Quirks of Being Human

09:06 - Discussion on Enneagram Types and Resonance

19:54 - Exploring Spirit Animals

29:03 - Spitting on a Tree and Sheldon

35:58 - Thoughts on Hair and Society's Expectations

45:36 - Bullying and Appreciation

Transcript
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.

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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.

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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

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I put my makeup on today, yeah you did, I took a shower.

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I took a shower, I put my makeup on.

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I'm so proud of you, thank you.

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And then I walked, belle, belle, and it was really windy outside and the wind blew in my eyes and blew on mascara all in my eyes and made all my makeup go down my face and like Alice Cooper, and so now it's like I look like I've been in a domestic dispute.

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That's how I felt this morning.

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We went to get a phlebotomy and phlebotomized.

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Wait, what Did you get?

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your phlebotomy that's what I thought she said too is phlebotomy I got blood drawn and when I showed them my arms for them to evaluate the veins, I just saw an array of bruises.

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And I was like my goodness, Sarah, From your heroin problem.

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Just not knocks and bonks.

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They were like are you safe at home?

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And she's like no, I'm actually not safe, I have too many animals to be safe at home.

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I am far too clumsy to be safe at home.

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I actually run a zoo from the inside of my home.

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That is true.

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Oh, my God.

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Okay, are you guys ready to start?

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I could tell that I'm going to be a bit giggly just because I'm losing my mind.

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Yeah.

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In life Paw dooser, Sarah oh.

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No, I don't know how to spell Paw dooser.

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I was like well, it is a podcast.

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I'm the paw dooser, paw dooser, sarah.

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Hey paw dooser, what's up, paw?

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I think paw is what the Chinese would call the season of metal, the metal season.

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The fall, I think, Is paw Is that good, I mean it just is.

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What it is.

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It just is what if we gave our listeners just a completely unedited podcast today?

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We just were like this is it?

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We have done that before and I don't think they liked it.

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We've done that before and we got actually some pretty negative feedback.

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Yeah, they were like don't ever do that again.

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You guys are really lazy.

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That's what happened.

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You guys are lazy.

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I hate the word lazy.

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Do you guys hate the word lazy?

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I do too.

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I do too, and I do not appreciate being called that word because I am not a lazy person.

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You're not.

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Who called you that?

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I just did.

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Oh Well, that wasn't nice.

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Sorry, hey Kat, hey Moose.

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Hi guys, merry Christmas everybody.

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Happy holidays, merry.

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Christmas and happy holidays Merry Katmas and Merry Serimus, and Merry Christmast and Merry Moosmas, happy Hanukkah and to all of the other holidays that we celebrate Indeed.

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So you guys know that we're having a slumber party tomorrow night at my house.

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We are, I do know.

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I just want you to know that I remade all of the beds in my house this week Great.

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And the two beds one in each guest bedroom that normally just have like white kind of very generic sheets on them, both have Christmas sheets on them, and the one in the big guest bedroom has little blue and gray snowflakes.

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It's real pretty.

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And the bed in the other guest bedroom has got a bunch of Moose and Christmas trees on it.

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You're trying to woo me into that room, aren't you?

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I'm trying to woo you into that bed.

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You couldn't find any producer Sarah's sheets.

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I couldn't it was really tough.

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That's weird.

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Oh my God, just little microphones all over them.

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Yeah, I thought maybe you could be represented by the Christmas tree this year, Sarah.

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I accept.

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I love trees.

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Yes, exactly, I love Christmas trees too.

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There you go.

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It says, if it was planned.

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Well, speaking of that, guys, we got an email about the wassel.

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Hey, I would like some cheering for an email, A wassel wassel email.

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You can email us too at hello at catmoosepodcastcom.

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Okay, so the subject of this is wassel, baby, wassel, baby, wassel, baby wassel, oh I like it already.

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I love our listeners so much.

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I know I did too.

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You're as weird as we are Okay.

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And so, megan, thanks for writing in.

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Hey Megan, hey Megan.

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Megan says hi guys.

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So my family always makes wassel at Christmas time.

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However, I never knew the meaning behind it.

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So thanks for being the wassel education podcast.

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She knows us, she does my Pentecostal great aunt Shirley.

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I mean, who doesn't have a great aunt Shirley?

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Shirley, we do.

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Wait, a Pentecostal.

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I mean, yeah, I can't even say it.

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Okay, so great.

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Aunt Shirley made it one year when I was a little kid and we've been having it since.

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As a kid I hated it, but as an adult we add a few extra ingredients, wink, wink to take the edge off the holidays.

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I like it now.

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I really like it now.

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Oh, I also want to add that the version we make is probably not traditional.

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It's more like the redneck version.

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We put red hot candies in ours.

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Oh, cat, it sounds like your neck of the woods.

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Yeah, totally Mary.

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Whatever means the most to you, megan, thanks, megan.

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I love that.

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Instead of Merry Christmas, mary, whatever means the most to you, cheers to that.

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It's beautiful, I love it.

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Everyone raise your drinks, please, and very quickly go around and say what you're drinking, cat you first I am drinking La Crema, russian River, chardonnay.

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Okay, lagunitas Daytime.

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It's a crisp session IPA.

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Unsweetened iced tea Nice.

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Great work everyone.

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Good work everybody.

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Cheers to you Megan, cheers Megan, cheers Megan.

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We are raising our wassal to you.

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It's not what you think it means.

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Miss, I have to tell you we talked I think it was on our last episode or maybe the episode before that about our favorite Christmas songs.

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Yes, and one of yours if not your top favorite was Slay Ride.

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Oh yes, oh yes, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

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Ever since we recorded that podcast, I have found myself walking around the house whistling like this Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, I love that, like octave, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and I can't ever hit it.

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And it just has stayed in my head.

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It's like I'll find myself like loading the dishwasher and I'm like whistling that was great.

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It's very joyful it is.

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It's lovely, that is so cute.

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The best part of that is anytime that you yell loud or you whistle like that.

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We actually can't hear anything you're doing, oh good.

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So Sarah and I just laugh and dance along, but it's not making fun of you, it's just we know when we hear it back that we're going to really have jammed to it.

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Oh yeah, the good news is we all have imaginations and I knew exactly what tune you were singing.

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Indeed.

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Oh good, I'm so glad you have imaginations.

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Imagination.

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Okay, so I have this book.

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It's called by Sarah Jane Case.

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It's an Enneagram book and it's called the honest Enneagram, and some people may know Sarah Jane Case.

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She goes by her name on Instagram now, but she used to go by Enneagram and coffee.

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Did you ever see like some of her posts?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It kind of reminds me a little bit of like Sanctuary World, the horoscope Instagram thing, where it's like they'll have like a little pie and they'll be like if you're a Scorpio, then 80% of you is this and 20% of you is this.

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Oh really, I always liked that about?

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yeah, and I always liked that about Sarah Jane.

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Is that her?

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name yeah, Sarah Jane.

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Yeah, I always liked that about her posts is I'm like oh, I can read a little bit about each number and it was like in a digestible format.

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I like that.

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That's so cool.

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She I had the honor of being an Enneagram training with her in Nashville in one of my classes and she how do I say?

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She led with Enneagram seven and I remember her talking about the dark sides of being a seven and it was just really interesting because you'd never hear that.

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But what I wanted to say.

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So this book it's called the honest Enneagram highly recommend it.

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I have been going through it recently and I we're not going to go deep, don't worry, we're going to stay really, really shallow, just like we like it.

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Oh, thank goodness.

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Yeah, but I want to ask each of you if you resonate with something.

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And then I have something very irreverent to do with the Enneagram.

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Okay, you are a type two.

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You lead with two, often called the giver, the lover, the helper, the hidden warrior.

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I never knew that that feels right in line I would agree with that, and this is the symbol, it's you holding a lotus, your hands holding a lotus.

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Very cool, very beautiful, that's a cool tattoo.

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It's very sweet.

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I should buy some of these and we should just give them away to listeners, or we should buy them with all of our money.

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Okay.

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The quote is I often believe that I am as worthy as I am lovable, that my worth is related to how wanted I am.

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So is the question?

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Does that resonate with me, or what is the question?

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Yeah, did your soul write that yeah?

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No.

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Oh.

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Actually, I think that that is not true.

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My current day ego layered version of my soul does not resonate with that.

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I think that would you read it one more time, from beginning to end.

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Yeah, of course, okay.

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I often believe that I am as worthy as I am lovable, that my worth is related to how wanted I am.

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Hmm.

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Yeah, that does actually resonate.

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I think that I was hearing it from a different perspective the first time around.

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I think that a lot of times I don't feel worthy because I don't feel lovable.

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I think that that is actually true.

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I think in my healthiest state of being I would be like I am lovable and I am worthy and all of that.

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I'm not in a super healthy state of mind then I don't believe I'm lovable or worthy, but that would still make the statement true you think you are as lovable as you are worthy, or you are as worthy as you are lovable?

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Yeah, I think that that is actually a fairly accurate statement.

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Well, I read these and I think the important thing to always note with any gram type is there's no negatives here.

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No type is better than one another.

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But also, when you find your any gram type, you feel you're most vulnerable because you're like ugh, it's like someone found that little red flag that is always freaking out when something goes wrong.

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Whatever it's like, you have attachment issues, whatever it is.

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We all have different kinds of ways we've survived, yeah.

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I remember feeling like when I figured that, when I found my any gram number, feeling like somebody crawled into my brain and saw through my lens of life.

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Yeah, which is pretty cool because, if you think about it, if people study an e-gram, they can go.

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Oh, before I call Kat and need to have this conversation, let me think about how it might feel the way I'm going to present it.

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Yeah, it helps us get in other people's brains.

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Yeah, that's cool.

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All right, sarah, you are loyal, a skeptic, a guardian and a trusted integrator.

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What's my any gram number?

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You're a type six, and here's your sentence.

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I want you to say, if you resonate with, I know that I will be okay as long as I know what is expected of me, and make a point to follow through with those expectations.

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Wow, yeah.

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I've never heard it worded this way and I think she has worded it the best I've ever heard.

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That's great.

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Yeah, that's really, that's really astute.

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I like that.

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Yeah, you agree with that?

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I do.

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Yeah, I, I mean, that is my biggest.

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I Don't want to say form of anxiety, but maybe, like trigger for anxiety is when I, especially in a work situation or something like that, when I don't, or in a any type of relationship, when I don't know what's expected of me.

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Now, relationships are interesting because I don't think we should have expectations, and yet that's a topic because maybe that we should have expectations of each other.

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You know, yeah, that's a whole different thing.

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But especially in a work environment or in that kind of situation, I am like, if I don't know what's expected of me, I will.

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I will climb every tower and try to Accomplish it all, because I don't know where the mark is.

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Hmm, We've talked about this before that a common thing that we recognized in our own workings together was that any gram sixes have often said I didn't, but I didn't know.

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I didn't know that.

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Yeah, that refers to that wanting to know the expectation and have the knowledge in order to show up and do it All right and quickly.

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Mine leader, challenger, protector, defender of justice type eight I feel like I sound like a superhero.

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Yes, you are a superhero.

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Yeah.

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And then this one.

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I think it's hard to read your own, because I'm like is that really me?

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But I know that I will be okay as long as I remain strong and powerful, mmm.

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And and it's interesting because when I hear that outside of myself, when my ego hears that, like you said, cat, my ego says I'm not trying to be strong and powerful, which is true.

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But Even more I would take the opposite of that and say it's more important for me to not ever be weak, mm-hmm.

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And that's not for the sake of being weak, it's for the sake of that's.

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When all the shit falls apart, you know what I mean.

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Like I can't be ever be weak because I'll be vulnerable, like that's what it comes up to.

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All right.

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So if you've never listened to the podcast, now you know who we are.

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You have four minutes of goodness there and I'm welcome to the enneagram.

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We're not an enneagram podcast.

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No, we're not.

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We don't do this every week.

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What do we do?

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So I want to see Moose.

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If something resonant, well, you then.

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You were gonna do an irreverent enneagram thing.

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Should we go there?

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Well, I thought we could, just we could do something really funny, okay.

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So I saw a sign.

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I Don't understand me.

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I saw the sign and it's been up my eyes.

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I saw the sign.

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All right, I love.

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We're a karaoke podcast.

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All that she wants is another baby.

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I'm gone tomorrow, all right, so I need you both to yell out Whatever your answer is for this.

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If it and there's nine of them I Saw a sign for me and my house we serve, we will serve the Lord.

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We've seen that before.

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It's a, it's a Bible verse.

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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I would like for us to write one, and in honor of Sarah Jane, for each grini Any.

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I said grini a gam Grini a jam grini, a gam type.

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I'm a weed.

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I don't understand this sign.

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You're not in the.

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Bible no, there's no Bible verses just for me in my house.

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We will serve and instead of the Lord we're gonna fill in something and I recognize this feels a little sacrilegious, not trying to do that.

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It's funny, any gram funny.

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So ready, here we go.

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Any gram nine for me at my house, we will serve passive aggressiveness the bed.

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Oh, I said the bed I'm sorry, they love to sleep.

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Okay, here we go.

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Any gram eight, sarah, you're allowed to yell it out too, okay for me in my house we will serve Volume, what I would say we will serve people.

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Because look for the helpers right.

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Whenever Sarah gets mad at me and I'm trying to help her like she gets irritated, I would say remember what mr Rogers said look for the helpers.

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Here I am, I'm so, I'm a creepy.

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Very passive aggressive.

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any gram seven the enthusiast for me in my house we will serve Party entertainment.

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Yes, intergrate of six for me in my house we will serve Safety, worry, concern For me in my house, any gram five we will serve truth information, the library.

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Any gram four for me in my house we will serve me.

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Sarah, you got anything my feelings, oh that's good.

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Yeah, any gram three, oh man, we kind of use this one up for me in my house.

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We will serve the best me, whatever me.

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You want Any a gram two for me in my house, we will serve you again and again as long as I can over, and I really hope.

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You see that I've served you.

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Since I am a two, I feel like I get to interact with a little bit.

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Um, I was having breakfast with a client this week and he said to me he said, cat, he goes.

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You're the type of person who, in order to do your job well, would show up to a meeting at the record label With a severed left arm that was bleeding out and not know that your arm was bleeding, yeah, so that you could like be there to do your job.

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You know, and I was like wow, like that's kind of true.

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It's like I kind of lose myself In order to like serve the person or serve the situation.

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But I also Thought about this a little bit more, like after we had that conversation, and I was like I think I've gotten better than that.

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Yeah, I think that I think that I would at least go in and go like I had my arms sought off and I have at least a soppy, wet Bandage on it and it's hurting really badly.

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So if I don't do everything right in this meeting, please give me some grace.

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So you would go to the hospital, yeah, you'd still go to the meeting.

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I love you point taken, I'm like you're right, you have gotten better.

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And as you're talking, I'm like that's not quite better.

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You're still gonna die by the end of the meeting.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely growth everybody.

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This is what years of therapy can do for you A little tight steps, guys.

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It's all you need One degree of change at a time.

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He'll turn the whole shit around.

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God, okay, any of gram one for me in my house.

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We will serve the rules.

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Organization yes, anything, sarah.

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Nope.

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Okay, great, good check it.

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Good job checking.

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All right guys, that's all I've got not all, but I mean for that part.

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That means a lot we're gonna go weak.

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Merry Christmas Cat.

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Um, I I'm not sure that.

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Uh, uh, you remember, but we are Jeopardy podcast.

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I forgot what I was gonna say there for a minute.

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Um, so I would love to see you choose.

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I'm not sure if I'm healing or dying for 500.

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Oh.

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Or or is that my only option?

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I would like to choose the category Alex, healing or dying for 500.

00:20:56.903 --> 00:20:58.388
Great, that's a new transition.

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Bobby, what did you think about that?

00:21:00.073 --> 00:21:00.974
Give us a score.

00:21:00.974 --> 00:21:02.720
Good job, she's our coach.

00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.042
Just kidding, we don't have a coach.

00:21:04.042 --> 00:21:11.693
So I've cried more in the past couple weeks than I have cried and, uh, in a while.

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It's so that, don't worry, it's mainly medication related.

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I'm doing all right sort of Um.

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And did you guys happen to see the video on instagram or tiktok or wherever you watch your stuff, about these, um, gray wolves being re-released into colorado?

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No, oh, I just like bald my eyes out.

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I won't even show you the video.

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But, um, the whole point is Like these hipster wolves from Oregon they're trying to repopulate.

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They're not really hipster, I was joking.

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They're trying to repopulate colorado and they brought, I think, five of them to release.

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But the music behind it, and it was like just this week that it happened, I guess, and I should just play it.

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But the whole point is these wolves like, when they open these crates, you to watch them, like look around in the wilderness and realize, you know, they've probably like Been in the car for a day or something to look around and be like this is my new life.

00:22:15.980 --> 00:22:20.275
It was like so beautiful, really, it really was.

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And so then I go.

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I'm like, why am I so moved by this?

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Besides, you know that I'm just crying a lot and I realized, like you resonate with the tiger, I think I resonate with a wolf, oh Nice.

00:22:36.452 --> 00:22:40.647
So I went down this deep hole and I won't take you there with me, don't worry.

00:22:40.647 --> 00:23:00.584
Um, but I did find out that this phrase I took, I read, and it said wolves are extremely intuitive and have an almost supernatural instinct that can detect dangerous situations, and I felt like somebody wrote a bio for me.

00:23:02.076 --> 00:23:03.039
And that one sentence.

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So I think my spirit animal might be a wolf.

00:23:07.036 --> 00:23:08.340
Oh, I think that's beautiful.

00:23:08.340 --> 00:23:18.064
You know it would be fun is to look at our spirit animal oracle cards in our animal wisdom book and see what it says about wolves as well and see if that resonates.

00:23:18.064 --> 00:23:19.755
That's really really beautiful.

00:23:19.755 --> 00:23:32.425
Moose, if you were to consider where or if your spirit animal lives in your body somewhere, do you have a sense of where that wolf energy lives in your body?

00:23:33.635 --> 00:23:38.261
You know, at first I was thinking my gut, but when I really think about it, it's like in my chest.

00:23:38.261 --> 00:23:42.384
That's where, like, I picture a wolf head coming out of my chest.

00:23:42.384 --> 00:23:42.967
How about that?

00:23:42.967 --> 00:23:56.905
Their eyes, though, are like, so stunning and, of course, I love dogs, so I guess that makes a lot of sense but also like and then, oh, let me show you what I found.

00:23:56.905 --> 00:23:58.401
I almost left the best part out.

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Look at this that showed up.

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I was like I freaking love wolves, and then there's this.

00:24:04.557 --> 00:24:07.926
That's just another wolf's leg, or is that like an antelope's leg?

00:24:08.796 --> 00:24:09.558
That's like a deer leg.

00:24:10.215 --> 00:24:11.140
That's the leg of a deer.

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It's a wolf carrying a caribou.

00:24:13.734 --> 00:24:14.839
We just have to read her.

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Hind quarter.

00:24:16.414 --> 00:24:18.983
But at first I thought the wolf had five legs.

00:24:22.337 --> 00:24:23.574
It does kind of look like it.

00:24:23.574 --> 00:24:25.643
Yeah, he looks like he's got another appendage.

00:24:25.776 --> 00:24:32.575
I mean he just took that leg off and was like I'm going for it, but yeah, anyway, that was a little shocking.

00:24:32.575 --> 00:24:35.565
But then I thought, OK, I'm trying to learn from everything.

00:24:35.565 --> 00:24:39.575
Is this what people feel like when they encounter an enneagram eight?

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Sometimes their leg was taken off.

00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:42.842
That is awesome.

00:24:45.474 --> 00:24:47.623
When you go back, when you go back to that page.

00:24:47.623 --> 00:24:49.961
Actually, I'd like to point something out.

00:24:49.961 --> 00:25:07.948
Yes, this is consistent with how sometimes I feel encountering, not encountering, having dealt with an enneagram eight, and I love you, I love my eight people and you've got to be a strong mofo to to spar with an eight.

00:25:07.948 --> 00:25:19.624
Yeah, I just I just want to say that, like as we are developing our identities and our growth as humans and stuff like that, miss, it might need to turn into the cat and wolf.

00:25:20.596 --> 00:25:23.778
Oh, you're right Across Eurasia.

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Wolves prey mostly on moose.

00:25:26.887 --> 00:25:30.596
Oh shit, whoa, I didn't even see that, mm.

00:25:30.596 --> 00:25:36.919
Hmm, for real, with a pack of 15 able to bring down an adult moose, jeez guys.

00:25:37.275 --> 00:25:44.490
Yeah, and then in North America important range wide prey are elk, moose, caribou and deer.

00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:58.211
So I mean it's like this is kind of an interesting like spirit animal battle type thing that could potentially be going on is but it does take 15 to bring down the moose.

00:25:58.751 --> 00:26:00.335
That's a lot of wolves.

00:26:00.935 --> 00:26:02.159
That's a lot of.

00:26:02.219 --> 00:26:06.915
I also think we need to change the podcast name to healing or dying for 500.

00:26:06.915 --> 00:26:16.121
Okay, I wait, I'm not done, because I moose would have to die and order for the wolf to come on board.

00:26:16.121 --> 00:26:17.284
You know what I'm saying?

00:26:17.284 --> 00:26:20.673
Yeah, healing or dying for 500.

00:26:20.673 --> 00:26:22.597
I think that's a great podcast title.

00:26:22.738 --> 00:26:24.682
I think it's a great podcast title.

00:26:24.682 --> 00:26:26.963
We are changing our name, can I share?

00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:28.528
something about wolves, please.

00:26:28.528 --> 00:26:48.042
When you were talking about that it reminded me of I think it's in the prologue, or like at the beginning, of this book that I picked up over the summer, called the hidden life of trees, and the author writes this story about when wolves disappeared from Yellowstone.

00:26:48.042 --> 00:26:51.394
Yeah, and it just is when you were talking about that.

00:26:51.394 --> 00:26:53.167
It just reminded me of it, so I'd love to read it.

00:26:53.167 --> 00:26:53.991
It's not very long.

00:26:53.991 --> 00:26:55.355
Sure, I'd love that.

00:26:55.355 --> 00:26:56.298
I'll do my best.

00:26:56.298 --> 00:27:00.030
Okay, he says it all starts with the wolves.

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Wolves disappeared from Yellowstone, the world's first national park, in the 1920s.

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When they left, the entire ecosystem changed.

00:27:08.318 --> 00:27:16.361
Elk herds in the park increased their numbers and began to make quite a meal of the aspens, willows and cottonwoods that lined the streams.

00:27:16.361 --> 00:27:20.557
Vegetation declined and animals that depended on the trees left.

00:27:20.557 --> 00:27:23.292
The wolves were absent for 70 years.

00:27:23.292 --> 00:27:27.666
When they returned, the elk's lingerie browsing days were over.

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As the wolf packs kept the herds on the move, browsing diminished and the trees spring back.

00:27:33.707 --> 00:27:39.912
The roots of cottonwoods and willows once again stabilized stream banks and slowed the flow of the water.

00:27:39.912 --> 00:27:44.025
This in turn created space for animals such as beavers to return.

00:27:44.025 --> 00:27:50.071
These industrious builders could now find the materials they needed to construct their lodges and raise their families.

00:27:50.071 --> 00:27:54.161
The animals that depended on the riparian meadows came back as well.

00:27:54.161 --> 00:28:03.057
The wolves turned out to be better stewards of the land than people, creating conditions that allowed the trees to grow and exert their influence on the landscape.

00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.673
I love that Isn't that crazy.

00:28:07.035 --> 00:28:08.481
Really, what is that from Sarah?

00:28:08.481 --> 00:28:15.040
Okay, so it's a book called the Hidden Life of Trees, what they feel, how they communicate discoveries from a secret world.

00:28:15.040 --> 00:28:25.096
So it's just kind of how, how trees talk, and I've not read much of it, admittedly, but it's very fascinating and very informational.

00:28:25.096 --> 00:28:29.395
So it's not really like he writes well, but it's not necessarily a novel.

00:28:29.758 --> 00:28:31.384
I was going to say like, yeah, it's very.

00:28:31.384 --> 00:28:46.193
It reminds me a little bit of Lonnie Jarrett, the guy that that is an acupuncturist dude that I like to read some of his writing because it's very like, informed from like a practical standpoint, but it's very poetically written.

00:28:46.213 --> 00:28:55.115
Like, I really like what you read was really poetic to me and it makes me think of an experience that I had this morning and I was thinking who could I tell about this?

00:28:55.115 --> 00:28:58.432
And I was thinking I was going to talk to you guys about this at our slumber party.

00:28:58.432 --> 00:28:59.999
But I guess I'm going to talk to you about it.

00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:01.635
Yeah, you've got a podcast, you can tell everyone.

00:29:01.809 --> 00:29:02.290
Yeah, mine as well.

00:29:02.290 --> 00:29:03.353
Just tell everybody now.

00:29:03.353 --> 00:29:22.182
So this morning I was out walking my dog and a lot of times in the morning when I'm out walking my dog I will spit, like I'll just kind of oh, you're hawking one Like a lube, not even a hawking one, but it's like just like getting the, just the stuff out.

00:29:22.182 --> 00:29:25.804
You know, it's like it just feels feels right to me, it feels good to me.

00:29:25.804 --> 00:29:45.344
And so this morning I was doing that and I was walking up my driveway as I was doing that and I spit, and I spit on the base of a tree that's in my yard and I looked at the tree and I looked all the way up the tree and I looked all the way down the tree and I said I'm really sorry for spitting on you.

00:29:45.589 --> 00:29:46.433
Oh yeah, no kidding.

00:29:46.433 --> 00:30:09.652
Like you stand here, faithful, minute after minute, day after day, month after month, year after year, the most faithful tree Like you bloom in the spring and you hibernate in the winter and you embody the, the seasons, like we've talked about before, and I am so sorry for disrespecting you.

00:30:09.652 --> 00:30:13.279
And then I walked away and I was like, well, now I've had a conversation with a tree.

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.041
Yeah, good job.

00:30:15.109 --> 00:30:17.737
I want you to have that same conversation with your body.

00:30:17.737 --> 00:30:19.019
We all do too.

00:30:19.059 --> 00:30:22.336
Yeah right, yeah yeah yeah, exactly, and it's like.

00:30:22.336 --> 00:30:29.378
It's like and I even thought, oh, as I tell people this, they're going to be like well, were you inebriated in some way?

00:30:29.378 --> 00:30:30.622
And no, I wasn't.

00:30:30.622 --> 00:30:43.938
Like I had no, no chemical interruptions or anything like that Like I was literally just having a moment with the tree in my yard, and so I would like to encourage everybody, like, do your own version of that.

00:30:43.938 --> 00:30:50.239
You know, like, whether it's spitting on it or not is really, I don't think, maybe what's so important, maybe not start there.

00:30:50.932 --> 00:30:52.176
Yeah, maybe don't start there.

00:30:52.176 --> 00:31:03.721
It's not a good way to start a relationship, but just really considering the difference in perspective between yourself and a tree, like kind of neat.

00:31:03.721 --> 00:31:05.023
I love it, great.

00:31:05.023 --> 00:31:07.336
Well, I'm going to talk about something else.

00:31:07.336 --> 00:31:13.618
I started watching a sitcom that my mom recommended, and I am not a sitcom watcher.

00:31:13.618 --> 00:31:17.068
I do not enjoy sitcoms Like I don't.

00:31:17.068 --> 00:31:19.255
It's like I feel like they're overacted.

00:31:19.255 --> 00:31:21.519
I feel like the humor is kind of forced.

00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.798
You know, there's like the audience laughter sometimes.

00:31:24.817 --> 00:31:26.673
Yeah, I don't like that and it's like I just don't.

00:31:26.794 --> 00:31:28.057
I just don't really like that.

00:31:28.057 --> 00:31:30.612
And my mom has referenced this show.

00:31:30.612 --> 00:31:31.817
It's called Young Sheldon.

00:31:31.817 --> 00:31:49.240
She has referenced it so many times that I was like, okay, over the Christmas break I'm going to watch a little bit of this so I can see what it is that she likes so much about this show and I think it is a brilliant look at autism through the eyes of a nine year old.

00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.539
Oh, really, I didn't realize that's what it was about.

00:31:53.050 --> 00:31:57.981
Really, and I don't know that that's what it's about, but that's what I have taken from it.

00:31:58.589 --> 00:32:03.362
Well, I knew it was from Big Bang Theory, like it was an extension of the Big Bang Theory.

00:32:03.971 --> 00:32:05.034
Oh, really I didn't know that.

00:32:05.075 --> 00:32:08.294
Yeah, I'm not going to prequel, if I'm not wrong.

00:32:08.294 --> 00:32:11.279
Oh, okay, okay About that main character.

00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:11.461
Yeah.

00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:18.493
Yeah, the kid is like super smart and super particular and you know, I'll give an example from one of the shows.

00:32:18.493 --> 00:32:26.539
He chokes on a piece of sausage and decides after that for like five weeks, I think it is, that he won't eat solid food because he doesn't want to choke.

00:32:26.539 --> 00:32:27.382
I understand that.

00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:28.311
You know, it's like.

00:32:28.311 --> 00:32:36.628
It's like scientific data has shown that when I eat something that is solid, it is possible that I choke, so I'm not going to do that anymore.

00:32:36.628 --> 00:32:38.474
It's like very, very literal.

00:32:38.474 --> 00:32:50.696
And one of the things that he was saying in one of the episodes I was watching last night is he quoted a philosopher, and Sarah, you or Andrea might know how to pronounce this philosopher's name.

00:32:50.696 --> 00:32:54.029
His name is Jean-Paul Sartre.

00:32:54.612 --> 00:32:57.042
No, I'm not someone and should speak French.

00:32:57.042 --> 00:32:57.364
No.

00:32:58.147 --> 00:32:58.890
No, don't, okay.

00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:13.561
Well, anyway, the quote that he offered was people are hell, and I thought you know what, like I really resonate with that and like the actual quote is hell is other people.

00:33:14.511 --> 00:33:16.178
Yeah Well, I like that even better.

00:33:16.790 --> 00:33:18.537
Yeah, hell is other people.

00:33:18.537 --> 00:33:23.896
And so I looked it up because I was like is this like a real thing, or is this something we?

00:33:23.896 --> 00:33:24.480
You know?

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:25.202
What is this?

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And of course, I had to do a little bit of a deep dive on it and this philosopher offered a clarification about his much misunderstood phrase.

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Hell is other people has always been misunderstood.

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It has been thought that what I meant by that was that our relations with other people are always poisoned, that they are invariably hellish relations.

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But what I really mean is something totally different.

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I mean that if relations with someone else are twisted, vitiated I don't know that word vitiated then that other person can only be hell.

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Why?

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Because when we think about ourselves, when we try to know ourselves, we use the knowledge of which other people already have.

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We judge ourselves with the means other people have and have given us for judging ourselves.

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What the hell, wow.

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So to me it's like.

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It kind of means that it's like, like, basically, like, like people are hell because we have like put onto them or accepted from them what they believe about us 100%, and it's, it's your whole thing about the ego, about the outside.

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You know what do people think, other people's opinions and stuff like that, yeah, and I thought, yeah, when you look at it that way, people are hell.

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Well, exactly, but really it's yourself that has putting yourself in hell.

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Yes, I mean, you are hell.

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I don't know how.

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Okay, I have questions, a lot of religious questions, but to that point do we ever get penance for I feel like, as a Caucasian person, I should never ask for this, but do we ever get penance for the religious trauma that we've been put through, meaning when, when we get to heaven and see everyone not me, I believe we're all going?

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Don't tell anyone that, um, but those who think that certain people aren't going to heaven, when they get there and they see all of us, is that our penance?

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To be like surprise, you know cause I like I picture I want to sign up for that If there's like a sign up list in heaven for like hey so and so died.

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They're gonna be shocked.

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You're here, you know like.

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I want to do that because to that point I do think we make our own lives hell worrying about what other people think.

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I totally agree with that.

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But also I'm like.

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I, at some point I want to be like, I want to have that gotcha moment you know of like, oh man, what does it feel like?

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Like have to spend eternity with people that you chose to hate for.

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So long Right and it's like really, is it your?

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I think it.

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Let me clarify is what you're asking?

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Is that their penance?

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Maybe I'm using the word penance wrong.

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I need retribution.

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Yes, yes, that's right on point.

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And the retribution is that.

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Well, no, no, no, that you're exactly right, though.

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The retribution is that those who are shocked that you are there, their penance is to live there with you in shock.

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I think heaven's gotta be a big place, cause think about this y'all.

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I don't want to spend time with all those people.

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You know what I mean.

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Like any my own neighborhood, all of that, I want to be up in the mountains, yeah.

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I think that's where the on earth as it is in heaven yeah exactly On earth as it is in heaven.

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That's?

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Isn't that the?

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I think that's the only prayer we should be praying.

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To be honest, yeah, yeah.

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And the other thing that I would like to bring, please, is that I've also just finished watching the latest season of the crown.

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Oh yeah, with Diana.

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Don't tell me what happens, just kidding, I know.

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I guess nobody knows.

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I really really enjoyed it Like it.

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There was one episode about Queen Elizabeth's sister, Margaret that just I was literally boo-hooing on my couch, Like boo-hoo crying on my couch, and it was a very, very artfully done, beautiful episode.

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But it was dreadfully sad and one of the things that Queen Elizabeth said that really really stuck with me is she said what is meant for you won't pass you by, I believe that.

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I mean, I believe that and guess what, just like Big Magic, Ms Gilbert, and if it's not meant for you, it will keep on going.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Speaking of sorry about me In the whole area of Koschel, oh my gosh, I'm really struggling today.

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I almost said Koschel con, no, koschel sanstrux.

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Can you guess what I meant?

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Social construx.

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Thank you.

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I have not had any chemicals either, even though it sounds like I have.

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Well, maybe this IPA went to my brain.

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But anyway here we go, guys.

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Here's what I'm getting at Liz Gilbert, all hail shaved her head and she looks like a beautiful monk with like.

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I mean, she just looks more beautiful than she's ever looked before.

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Wow.

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And this is like current day.

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Current day, this is like yeah, she posted a promotion for one of her events the other day and she had shaved her head and I was like damn, and I've been thinking about not shaving my head Just let me say that first, not that Don't get nervous.

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I've been thinking about the social constructs around hair, not just for women but for everyone, and there are so many right, women can't have hair under their arms.

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We have to shave our legs and I know not everyone goes by these rules and we've talked about that.

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I appreciate those who don't, but recently I found myself exhausted by life and needing to go out, and it was a friend of ours's birthday and I had very limited time after a massage that, even though I told my massage therapist if she could not to put any oil in my hair, she fully grabbed my hair like a horse's tail and ran as much oil as she could through it, and so I came home, she gave you a Brazilian blowout.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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All of a sudden you hear like a hairdryer and the massage thing next door, you know whatever.

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So I get home I'm trying to blow my hair out and do that whole thing and it just looks so greasy.

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So I had this moment where I was like and this is a small insight, if you don't know me, into how neurotic I can be, I keep it pretty low key.

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But I had this moment where I was like, oh my god, I can't go.

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I can't go because I can't wear my hair up to a fancy steakhouse.

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And I had like this part inside of me go, is that true?

00:40:31.795 --> 00:40:34.447
Like pulled some Byron Katie on me, is that?

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true.

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And I was like, well, isn't it true Like a woman has to have her hair down in order for her to look fancy?

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You know, like I just, and who the hell knows.

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I don't even know that this is a social con.

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I do think there's a lot with hair, but as a woman somewhere, I have come to believe that and I generally don't go in somewhere if I have my hair Like I just I went to the gym, so that's why I look like this today, but like I'll get on the podcast or whatever, whatever, but I wouldn't get on the zoom.

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I've done it maybe two times with like a hat on and I just find it interesting that we I do that, even though sometimes it's more comfortable for me just to throw my hair up on the top of my head.

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Ps, I look so cute, so what am I why?

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But anyway, that is my challenge for the week I'm putting that out there to us is to recognize when we judge ourselves like oh my god, I can't do that because.

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Is it because of someone else's opinions, and are those really even their opinions?

00:41:38.224 --> 00:41:39.911
Is it something you have come to believe?

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Well and I'll use an example that's not nearly as tame is that I can't wait, is I went, which is unusual because you're the eight in the relationship, so I would think that you would have the more shocking example, but this is truly just what came to my head.

00:41:59.293 --> 00:42:02.434
I ordered a new bra recently.

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Great, give her a cheer for that, guys, cause that is no joke.

00:42:06.331 --> 00:42:06.773
Easy to do.

00:42:06.773 --> 00:42:11.494
Yeah, no joke, and it is the most comfortable bra I have ever owned.

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I will say that there's one part on the right strap that kind of itches my shoulder right here that I just can't figure out why it's itching me.

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So I got to figure that out.

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But I went to a meeting the other morning and I had a choice whether I was gonna wear my little pasties, my little like nippy pasties, that I like to wear.

00:42:32.304 --> 00:42:36.655
I can't believe we're using the hashtag Nippy pasties Geez guys.

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Nippy pasties.

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Is that a Y or Nippy or an IE?

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IE.

00:42:39.670 --> 00:42:44.731
So Nippy pasties, is that a brand or did you make?

00:42:44.731 --> 00:42:53.371
That up Nippy covers, I think is the brand I thought you just happened to call them Nippy pasties and I was like that's adorable.

00:42:53.371 --> 00:42:55.583
It's like, yeah, that is what I call them.

00:42:55.784 --> 00:42:56.648
Yeah, they're called.

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I think they're called Nippy covers.

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Or just nippies or something.

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Oh, you are still touching your breasts while you're doing that.

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I'm still touching my breasts while I'm doing that.

00:43:03.751 --> 00:43:06.190
Okay, so, anyway.

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So I made a decision going to this breakfast that I went to, that I quote unquote should wear a bra as opposed to wearing my nippies.

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And I thought to myself when I was at breakfast and I was having the itchy thing right here like does this person who I'm sitting with care that I am wearing a fitted bra with straps that lifts my breasts about a third of an inch Like does this person care or is it completely irrelevant?

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And so I'm just saying that, like this is my own personal way of relating to your what you brought up.

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I appreciate it.

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I gotta tell you I it's hard for me to see someone without a bra, though yes, I agree, you know what I mean, like when you do see it and they haven't worn one in a while.

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Yeah, you're like oh, that's a whole thing.

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But yeah, I mean everybody should do themselves.

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I think there needs to be a more comfortable version, like I, for those of us who are those who are larger breasted.

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They should make like a hammock that goes like this and then around the neck like a little tie, okay we have got photographic evidence of that thing.

00:44:32.744 --> 00:44:37.452
We do yes, cause I wore it, we ordered it, we ordered it.

00:44:37.452 --> 00:44:38.750
I think we talked about it on the podcast.

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Oh, that's right.

00:44:39.704 --> 00:44:45.992
We ordered it and then I put it on and sent a picture of it to you guys and made you guys swear that you would not put it on the platform.

00:44:46.052 --> 00:44:46.653
Can you re-send?

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it to me?

00:44:47.135 --> 00:44:48.650
Yes, I have to find it.

00:44:48.650 --> 00:44:49.092
Oh my God.

00:44:49.585 --> 00:44:51.313
And you don't think we should share it with our listeners?

00:44:51.313 --> 00:44:53.048
I mean Kat, like.

00:44:53.349 --> 00:44:54.867
I is it really a?

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hammock that ties around your neck.

00:44:57.045 --> 00:44:58.952
It literally isn't over the shoulder.

00:44:58.952 --> 00:45:00.547
Boulder holder, like it's like.

00:45:00.547 --> 00:45:05.137
It literally like ties on the back of the neck and just kind of holds.

00:45:05.137 --> 00:45:07.110
Oh you gotta stop touching yourself.

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Holds.

00:45:08.769 --> 00:45:09.617
Well, I don't holds.

00:45:09.617 --> 00:45:12.092
What else are you gonna do To be supported comfortably?

00:45:12.092 --> 00:45:13.168
Yeah, I understand that.

00:45:13.945 --> 00:45:20.088
Yeah, you know there were a lot of old wives tales around like if you slept in your bra you would get cancer.

00:45:20.088 --> 00:45:33.289
What I know like, yeah, like all these things growing up and then apparently at like slumber parties, people would like steal your bra and put it in the freezer and that's why I never wanted to go to those things.

00:45:33.811 --> 00:45:34.652
That happened to me.

00:45:34.652 --> 00:45:35.273
It did.

00:45:35.273 --> 00:45:36.536
That happened to me, yes.

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Did you feel?

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bullied when I was in the.

00:45:38.507 --> 00:45:39.672
I felt very bullied.

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It happened to me when I was in the eighth grade.

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That's not cool.

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And I, I know I went to a slumber party and my bra got put in the freezer.

00:45:46.672 --> 00:45:48.009
I was mortified.

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What Cause?

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I like pulled it out Once I found out where it was.

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:58.333
Somebody had to tell me and I and it's like they had wedded or something and then put it like flat in the freezer.

00:45:58.333 --> 00:45:59.628
So it was just this like.

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It was almost like a statue of like a bra and it's like that's so not cool, so I'm like carry that thing home.

00:46:08.284 --> 00:46:09.670
It was so embarrassing.

00:46:09.731 --> 00:46:10.452
It was awful.

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I was like it's awful.

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Guys, don't bully your friends.

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It's not cool.

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It's not so awful.

00:46:16.985 --> 00:46:20.650
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