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Welcome to the Cat and Moose Podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
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This is a True Life Podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Hey Moose, hey Kat, hey Sarah, hi guys, I would like to start today's podcast with a complaint.
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Okay, oh great, I love that.
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I love when we start in a positive note, always.
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Yes, because we're a positive podcast.
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So I got a voice memo from you yesterday, moose, saying the following I would like for you to bring your most authentic self to the podcast and I would like for you to pay attention to the lighting.
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I would like for you to pay attention to your background, etc.
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Etc, etc.
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It looks nice.
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Yeah, I did, and it looks great, by the way it really does.
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You've really upgraded for this episode, I'm sure.
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Well, thank you.
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I also am really struggling, though and this is the complaint that I have, and it's not directed toward you, moose, it's just toward Sure feels like it.
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I know I'm trying to back it up a little bit, and this is kind of a question for all three of us.
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Even someone asks you to bring your most authentic self.
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What is that Like?
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Because to me, my most authentic self is not looking good and good lighting with good makeup on.
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Like that makes me feel like I'm having to like put on a front or put on a thing.
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I did not want you to put on a front.
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I just needed great video.
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Did I hurt your?
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feelings when I asked that you didn't hurt my feelings at all, like it actually didn't hurt my feelings at all.
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It kind of took me on this journey of like what is bringing my most authentic self?
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And it made me just kind of wonder, like what does that mean to each one of us?
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Like, what is it?
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What does it mean?
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Is it something that is visual?
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Is it something that's spiritual?
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Is it something that's tangible or intangible?
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And it just kind of sent me on this, like as most questions you ask me do.
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They sent me on this like just exploration of like what does it mean for cat to be cat's most authentic self?
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And I just I don't know.
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I thought that your question inspired a lot of very exciting curiosity for me.
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And what did you learn?
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I learned that some of the reasons that I hold back and by holding back like, like, I mean like why do I not look like?
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You know, I'm in great physical condition and I'm in great this and great that or whatever it's like a lot of the reason I hold back and I said this in an interview in college one time is that I think I'm afraid of success.
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I know that feeling.
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You know, you've always said that I don't, I don't understand that and I've never understood it.
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I think I'm in denial about doing the same thing.
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Really, like what does that mean you're afraid of because this comes up?
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We've talked about this with the podcast.
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We talked about this with businesses we've owned.
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I would love to explore this because I think I have it too and I think I'm just in denial of it because, to me, the words I'm afraid of success don't make sense.
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They don't make any sense.
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They don't make any sense, and one of the things that I say often in in my music career is I say that human beings are not created for fame and notoriety.
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We can't handle it Like like there.
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There are very few examples of people that I think everybody just kind of goes like wow, that person's just got it together.
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You know, it's like Tom Hanks would be one of those.
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You know not.
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If you ask the conspiracy theorist, they hate him.
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Oh, that's true.
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But I'm with you.
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He's like, as good as they get yeah, they do.
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I mean, yeah, like Tom Hanks, julia Roberts, oprah, jimmy Fallon, yeah like good.
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They seem like good solid.
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Sarah Reed who?
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Oh, sarah Reed, sarah you are a very well rounded.
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Yes, famous person.
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Yeah, I'm very, I'm very impressed, I'm very impressed, sarah, thank you.
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Okay, so you guys both agree that you are afraid of success.
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Let's dissect that, or maybe that's not the right phrase.
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Say it again, kat.
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Well, no, that is what I said and, in and to me, like that's what I'm the most curious about, because it's like, well, success has been defined as something different.
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As I've aged, and I think that I am entering into a time of life and I think this is part of kind of like the midlife crisis, and all of that is that I'm actually less and less and less afraid of success.
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What success means to me has evolved.
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And what has it evolved from and to yeah well, I feel like success is like you're a really good radio promoter, you're a really good manager, you're a really good body worker, like yay you, you should be famous and have your very own business card.
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You know, it's like that, to me, has felt like what I've been striving for and what what I think that I have learned and I'm still adjusting to is that I think what success really means to me is is my kingdom safe and is my kingdom full of things and people that bring out the best in me?
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Yeah, and to me, that's successful.
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I would agree with that.
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And what that looks like and what that sounds like is almost irrelevant.
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You know, it's like it's more of like just going, like okay, it's not important that I'm the best manager in the industry, like that is important to somebody and I really want to be a great manager, but like I don't need to be Scooter Braun or whomever one might say is one of the best managers in the industry.
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I don't think they would pick him at this point.
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Well, I hear you, yeah.
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At one point they did Okay.
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So, yeah, I hear you so okay with that.
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Said, though, in relation to projects you work on now, how does that relate like the podcast being successful?
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Why does that scare you?
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Well, the thing is is that it shouldn't, and it doesn't, and so, like, by you asking me to step up my game and use better lighting and and all the things that that meant to me, things you didn't say, but, like I was like, well, I better put makeup on my hair, better not look greasy, like I need to wear a solid color t-shirt that doesn't say anything.
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You know, it's like there were several things that I thought of that I was like this is what stepping up my game looks like.
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Yeah, and you know what?
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Like, if I see something about our podcast out there on the internet, I want it to look good.
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Right, true, I want it to look pro.
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What I find so interesting is that I I experienced my outgoing voice memo to you as a pep talk and you're describing you're describing it as a critical Admonishment.
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What does admonish mean?
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Like.
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I'm correcting you Like, like, because I haven't had lighting in in this office in a while.
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So it was.
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It was I was inspired by some things I saw and then I went how do we step it up?
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This is what it could look like, very simply, and then that's where the voice memo came from.
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That's so interesting.
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Our perspectives are so, yeah, so incredibly different, and I also, like I just did that thing where I like told you something you did and then told you how it made me feel, and that's really, really non-therapeutic, like.
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That's like, oh no, I find it.
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And I I am.
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It's just interesting because I came into it as I was like talking to Sarah, we were on our way back from this quick trip that we were doing and I was like this is where I want to put my time and energy.
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And it was that was the result of it.
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Was that voice memo?
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Yeah?
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Well, and when you said that you wanted this to be a big part of our careers, that made me want to pound my chest and like rip my shirt and and go like, yeah, I mean, it's like every episode that I listened to you.
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I'm genuinely proud of me too.
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Like genuinely proud of it.
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I think we're our biggest fans.
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Well, good, I mean, as it should be right.
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Listen, here is, I have said since I started my company my sort of secret tagline and it's probably just my personal tagline in life is what if the truth is enough?
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Mm-hmm, like, what if?
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Like, especially when it comes to other people having opinions like well, what if the truth is enough?
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Like you can't really get me outside of saying you disagree with me if I'm telling the truth.
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You know, and I think that is what we have going for us with this threpple that we have created, whoa.
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The thing about a threpple is my understanding is that it involves some sort of physical contact, and I haven't seen you guys in like weeks.
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That's not true.
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You drugged me out.
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Yeah, you drugged me.
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So, Kat and I, if you I don't know if we've talked about this in the podcast or not, but Kat and I have this ongoing.
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We started it, I think, last month and we have this ongoing thing of like hey, we both are not the biggest fans of some events we have to go to.
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Now, that's not the case of the one I went with you, but sometimes it's nice to have a wingman when you go to like industry events and so I I you came with me to something and then you invited me to come with you, which I had a great time, but I totally pulled an introvert move and just like sat at the bar while everybody was like seated at tables.
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Don't worry, I wasn't just drinking, I was listening to everything that was happening, but it was a really fun night.
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It was a really fun night and it's one of those things where knowing that you were going with me to that event, it changed my whole.
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It gave me a paradigm shift, it changed my whole perspective because, like it was a lovely event to begin with, like it was there wasn't.
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It wasn't like oh God, there's this thing.
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You know, it's like well, it's already really great, and then having you there with me like, oh my gosh, like it made it.
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It made it even better.
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So thank you for going.
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That was fun.
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Um, I got a text from you me and Sarah did last week and, uh, I don't know if you want to talk about it, so you can say no and shut it down.
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But, um, I was asking you how your follow up appointment was at the doctor's appointment and we sublet doctor's appointments here on the podcast.
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So your text was I'm in the late stages of menopause and I thought, in order to piggyback when Jen DiPaula asked us please talk about preparing menopause, et cetera, Do you have any more insights that we might be able to glean from?
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Well, I do, I do and um, I I.
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First of all, I'm like really surprised at this statement that I am.
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I am in the end stages of menopause, because I feel like I'm just beginning, like I feel like whoa, what is this thing called a hot flash?
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And whoa, what is blah blah, blah, blah.
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And what the doctor explained to me is that really like it's not so much about the levels of the different hormones in the body, it's about the ratio between them.
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Oh, interesting, and the ratio between testosterone and estrogen in my body is great.
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It is very, very great.
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I have very high testosterone and I have very low estrogen and when I went and read about high testosterone in women, it's all the things I'm terrified of, like growing a beard and having a deep voice like a man and you know, like, like a lot of the things that in the enlarged downtown area, you know there's yeah, yeah, it's like there's a lot of things that I just I'm a little bit afraid of, and our doctor explained to me that it may just be a genetic disposition.
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It doesn't mean that, like anything, is quote unquote wrong, but it's just a genetic disposition, and my ratios are still out of whack, and so ever since then, I've been wearing a estrogen patch.
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You're going to love it.
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You told me that and I was like, oh, it changed my world.
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Yeah, have you noticed a difference?
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I don't know, and I was going to ask you, like what do I need to be looking for?
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Um, for me, if I'm not, if I forget to change my estrogen patch or I don't change it in time, so I guess, like the medication on it isn't as potent.
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Um, there's just a random guy walking on the street, but I realized it was Amazon.
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Okay, hypervigilant moose, calm down, hey guys.
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Um, okay, so I realize when I don't have it on, I immediately am super hot All the time.
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So it for me, it helps my hot flashes.
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Has she put you on one click of testosterone?
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No, she doesn't need it.
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Her testosterone's up here.
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My testosterone is really high.
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I see right here, gotcha, I'm misunderstood that the other way around.
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Um, I'm on one click and so far no mustache.
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So wow, I am on no clicks and I've got a full on mustache and beard At 42.
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Well, I'm not saying that there aren't other hairs that have popped up that I have to take care of, golly guys.
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Not down there up here this beautiful face, Kat didn't you get an email about a tongue piercing?
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I 100% did.
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Are we reading that on the podcast today?
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You're gonna read it to us?
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Can we?
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It's in the text thread and, sarah, I would like for you to read it.
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Okay, okay, great, this is from somebody that Kat knows and this person wrote in and I had a lot of fun reading this one, and so I hope that you guys do as well.
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I have to say I was rolling as I was laying out by the pool yesterday listening to y'all.
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I could feel producer Sarah's pain, remembering the tongue ring.
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So it's the late 90s.
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I'm teaching Swedish massage at the school.
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I have zero tattoos, a mullet with a shaved side of head and a nose ring.
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I really wanted an eyebrow ring, to which my mom said no and that she had a bad feeling about me getting one.
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The school then said no more facial piercings.
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So a couple of my students had gotten tongue rings.
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They swore it didn't hurt at all.
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These people are liars.
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I thought well, it's not a facial piercing technically.
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So one of my BFFs fill in the blank decided she wanted a tongue ring too, Cause if there are things to try, we are gonna do them.
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Off to the old hippie store in Nashville called Stone Mountain.
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We go in and I can't remember who went first.
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The pain receptors fog the memories.
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Yes, they do.
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They did not use any gauze to hold my tongue.
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What?
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They wiped it to dry it off, but they pulled my tongue out of my mouth with a pair of hemostats, Then pulled that needle out and popped.
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That's what it felt like.
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It sounded like.
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Oh my God, like a squirrel popping under its car.
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Like my, butt is numb, completely numb and popped it through my tongue.
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Oh, they put a long bar which is a shaft in my tongue.
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Oh, it is a shaft, yes, with the two balls on each end.
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They wouldn't put a shorter bar in at the beginning to give your room room for your tongue to swell?
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Oh my God, so where am I?
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So after they did it, I had to lay there for a few minutes because it was always afterwards that my brain realizes what I've done and smacks me for a few.
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Now we didn't have pain for the first couple of hours but, mfr, once the tongue started swelling, look out.
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I had my dearest client couple that I'm known for over 30 years now scheduled for out call sessions.
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In two days I put ice in my mouth and ice chips because I couldn't eat.
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I tried to have a shake.
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No, didn't realize how much I used my tongue to freaking suck.
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The next day came and I was slurring words and sounded like Cindy freaking Brady with my lisp Damn thing is swollen.
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Now these clients had gotten to know me pretty well.
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So I call them and say I'm in so much pain and I need to reschedule.
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They have an answering machine.
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Yep, they still got it.
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They screen calls with it.
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Again, it's the late 90s.
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I start talking when the answering machine comes on.
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They pick up.
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I say I need to reschedule and end up saying why, when asked, oh, if I had dental work done, one of the couples said oh my God, and the other well, they had quite a lot Like almost four days of some of the most excruciating pain ever, more than any surgeries.
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Biting the ball of your tongue is real, cracking teeth is real and getting caramel and such stuck in the ball can be uncomfortable.
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Oh God, my friend over time took hers out Me, absolutely not gonna come out of my mouth.
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I'll be 80 with this thing in.
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I've even stretched a hole a bit wider and the bar is shorter, easier to control that sexual part that I didn't know until afterwards.
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There you go.
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Oh my gosh no.
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I thought that was not.
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That was really interesting.
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No.
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I'm sorry, but I cannot understand what that metal bar does and I don't wanna know.
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Like I don't think it's the bar, it's not the bar.
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Wait, what is?
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it.
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It's the ball underneath the, on the bottom and on top of the tongue.
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Oh my gosh, you guys.
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Okay, thank you so much for the so secret shout out.
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Thanks for coming to my tongue piercing talk.
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Hearing each of your voices in my ears is truly special and I love always feeling like I have a seat at y'all's table.
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Blessings, and I love all you ins, all you ins, you ins.
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Oh, sorry, I had a brain fart moment reading.
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I think I went back to like third grade, I felt like it too.
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I was worried about you.
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Oops, sorry, I thought you did a great job.
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It was third grade.
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C plus, and I'm just wondering like do we still have that third grader with us?
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Oh, we didn't do parts work.
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Probably she's, afraid.
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Well, I just want you to know that I have a lot of affection and love for the third grade C plus version of producer Sarah.
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Thank you, that's what I want to say oh, thank you so much.
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That's very sweet.
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And it makes me wonder if, like when we do shout outs and things like that, is that continuing to make us like the best, most authentic podcast of the three of us, or have we jumped the shark?
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Do you guys know about jumping the shark?
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No, yeah, oh well, what is it?
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What do you know about it, Miss?
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Well, I've just heard the phrase that.
