Meat Collars and Crushing on a Decision

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Welcome to the cat and moose podcast.

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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.

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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

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Hey, kat.

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Hey Moose hey.

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Sarah Hi Hi, welcome, welcome back.

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We were just talking about our meat callers.

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Yes, our what?

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Our meat callers?

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this, it's not quite a double chin, it's, it's more than that a double chin is just a little bit of like a yeah, you know yeah but, like I was saying when we were getting our video stuff ready, which is still a new thing, if you have not subscribed to our podcast on YouTube, please do that now.

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Also, you can watch video on Spotify and text us.

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I learned that today on my drive here I was listening to the last episode and I was like, how am I seeing our faces?

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Like that's amazing.

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Well, it is amazing, yes, Pretty amazing.

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But as we were getting ready and getting our cameras adjusted and everything, I was like guys, like, look at me from the side.

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Like whoa it is.

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Give it to us, show it to us.

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Okay, I was not calling yours a meat color, I was calling mine no definition.

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Oh, last week, the way we had the cameras positioned, we're still learning.

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But I just look like I had swallowed a cat and I said to Kat, not you like another Kat, but I said to Kat, sarah, tell me where to put my microphone.

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You need to be able to see your mouth.

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Oh, I said to Kat Sarah, tell me where to put my microphone.

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You need to be able to see your mouth.

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Oh, I said to you Kat yes, I'm surprised my heart could still keep beating with that much goodness around my neck and I said immediately the song that came to my head was my heart will go on Near far, wherever you are.

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I feel like we've gotten way better.

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We are Wilson Phillips, I know I have a feeling on YouTube we're going to get flagged for that song because it sounded so much like.

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Celine Dion, Definitely oh definitely yeah.

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Oh man, oh man guys.

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Well, I'm glad that your heart is still beating.

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Me too it makes me very happy.

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I love you both so much.

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You are loved as well from my heart.

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I love you.

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Hey, remember when we had that friend back in the day.

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I can't give too many details because people know who it is and they used to uh call you friend, like thanks, friend, and it bothered the shit out of you.

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It still bothers me like there's still a.

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I say it to you sometimes and you're like that is not okay, it's not okay I don't enjoy that.

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I don't enjoy the comma, friend, like I.

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It just doesn't.

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It feels too on the nose, like it's too.

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Okay, but what?

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What is it the same voice that you use when you are doing body work and you say would you consider?

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Well, I mean, I think, that person that we're speaking of would say, like you know, you'd be like hey, are we still doing that meeting at two o'clock?

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And they would say, yes, friend, like doesn't that seem like that's the voice?

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it does, it is, and I'm I'm saying I don't.

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I don't want to think that I use that voice as a practitioner like that makes me feel not good no, there are people that talk like that.

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Yes yeah yes, yeah, you're not one of them?

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I am not one of them.

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No, at least I hope I'm not one of them if you've been on my table and I'm one of them.

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Please tell me oh, you've been on my table, oh man.

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Well, here we are, you're going on a big adventure this week.

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I'm going to the podcast movement convention.

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I'm so excited for you.

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You almost came with me.

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I mean, like gosh, if I did, I could probably still talk you into it.

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I can feel like that sense of like I could push you over the edge.

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But I realize I should hold that favor for another time.

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Yeah, like some of the things you've had me do recently, yeah, yeah, like what?

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Like you know things I can't say on the podcast and now it sounds like it's been scandalous.

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Things I've made you do.

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I mean I need to remember my safe word.

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I need to remember my safe word.

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Do you think it's odd to have safe words with people that aren't your partner?

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If you need safe words, but doesn't that suggest that something's like wrong?

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I'll use your terminology.

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I'm'm very concerned.

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Yeah, exactly, if you need safe words.

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I'm concerned.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Red flag.

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Yes, yeah, there you go, not a green flag.

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Yeah definitely not a green flag.

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Speaking of red, I know you're going on an adventure this week.

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Yes.

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But you said Sarah said red flag, and it made me think of Red Book.

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And then I got really excited.

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Show us what that is exactly yeah, so this is.

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It's called the big red book.

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It's the adult children of alcoholics and dysfunctional families.

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So if you're listening to this podcast, you probably can relate to everything you're gonna.

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Really, this is our bible.

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This is our bible yeah there, this is.

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This is a bible and um and a red flag.

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Um is not what I'm gonna read about okay um, but I do just want to read this passage and tell me if it, if it spurs anything on you okay, friend, friend, isn't that just horrible?

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yeah, horrible.

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It's sort of like you're like oh you dumb you.

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Yeah, it feels a little bit like you're beneath me.

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Yes, yes, you stepping stool of my life you know, and it's like wow, um, effective counseling methods for adult children should include the inner child, which was affected most by the family dysfunction.

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This is a child harmed by shame and parental manipulation.

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The symptoms of addiction or codependence shield the inner child and make it difficult to diagnose what has happened in the person's life.

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Yeah, most people who've had that experience of adult parents who a propensity to codependence, addiction, denial and I just think that's fascinating, like how that's connected.

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Yeah, you seem very interested.

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My brain, my adhd brain, is going a million different ways.

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Okay, we're tell me one of the directions it went well, okay.

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So do you have memories of we're gonna go deep here for a sec do you have memories of your father quote unquote being an alcoholic?

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I really don't.

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I mean, I have a couple of like.

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I remember one of the first therapists I went to when I came to Nashville.

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I remember talking to her and telling her that I was frustrated that I couldn't remember complete stories from my childhood and was like that's very common.

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Oftentimes it's kind of like a, if you think of, like a movie film strip, like one of the analog film strips.

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She said oftentimes what we remember are just frames that's so true frame, so we don't remember like a whole sequence of events, and those are some of the things, like I remember seeing my dad, like drinking beer and having a cigarette on the couch late at night, when I wasn't supposed to get out of bed, you know, and I woke up and, for whatever reason, went in there and I'm like, well, this is not normal, you know, and it probably was normal, I just didn't know that like that's what was going on.

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Yeah.

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So I have a handful of memories like that, a handful of of memories like that, and I remember like we ordered from the beer truck in germany like the one that I used to be the guard and I would have my fake machine gun and that guy would let me ride with him all around the neighborhood while he was delivering beer.

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I mean, we got, we gave a case of empty beer bottles to him and got a case of full beer bottles, like those were being consumed by someone and it wasn't my mom, and it wasn't me and my sister, you know.

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So I have those kind of memories.

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What about you?

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uh, similar, like I didn't.

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My dad was never like um.

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My dad was never like um an angry drunk or a funny drunk.

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He just sort of passed out.

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I remember him passing out a lot, really, yeah, and not like faint pass out and not blackout drunk, I don't think.

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I think he just would have a few drinks and then fall asleep on the couch.

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The problem was that we would go to the movie store and pick out movies to watch while he was, you know, asleep on the couch and we were like watching um nightmare on elm street I was gonna say like nc-17, yeah, like friday the 13th, like super scary horror movies as like children, yes

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yes, and so you know I can't point to anything of like there was necessarily neglect, but the you know my parents were divorced.

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We were only spending summers and Christmases with my dad and luckily my grandmother was a big part of like making sure things felt normal.

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Yeah, but I'm with you Like, even though I know my dad had a drinking problem.

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He eventually quit drinking, uh, many, many years in.

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But um, I remember at one point my sister and I he was so passed out and snoring we took these bagels and dipped them in strawberry cream cheese and we would just lift up his lips and set them in there and see how many we could get inside of his mouth.

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There's just clumps of bagel.

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That's a.

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That's one of those snapshots, for me.

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Yeah, isn't it strange, the stuff that we go through growing up and it's like, like you said, how is our, how are our hearts still beating, I don't know.

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Well, I think there's been some good stuff along the way.

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Maybe that's, maybe that's part of why.

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Well, I think there's been some good stuff along the way.

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Maybe that's part of why.

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Let me say one thing that ties into what you shared.

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I saw this Instagram post this week and it said be grateful for triggers.

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They point you where you are not free.

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Ooh, that's good, yeah, yeah, wow, it's, it's.

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It reminds me of um.

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I was in a body work appointment this week as the the client and I was talking about how I'm going through this like and we talked about it on the podcast last week about how I'm going through really, it being really loud for me when people take things personally and how much I take things personally and nine times out of 10, it has nothing to do with me, or it has nothing to do with that person that took things personally and and my practitioner said she goes, you know a recovery phrase about that, don't you?

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And I was like what?

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And she's like if you spot it, you got it.

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That's so good.

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You know, I learned a phrase this week in relation to giving a crap what people think.

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Um, and it was FOPO instead of like FOMO, and it's fear of people's opinions.

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Oh, that's good.

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It is good.

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No, I'm struggling with FOPO yeah.

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There's this book.

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I'll talk more about it, but there's this book that's a Harvard Harvard Harvard business review book that I just got.

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That is all about FOPO and how to like, not worry about what it is that people think, wow, that's really good.

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Do you remember that book?

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One of our friends recommended it to both of us a couple of years ago and it was called the art of not giving a fuck.

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Do you remember?

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that I still have it.

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I read most of it.

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I didn't read all of it, but I read most of it and it's really just about that, you know.

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It's just about like, hey, if we're going to be worried about what everybody thinks all the time, then we're we're going to be in a little uh, gerbil wheel.

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That's what that's going to feel like and that reminds me of, um, we've got some great friends, like the three of us have got some great friends, and I was in the car with one of our great friends and I was talking about a situation where I said, you know, I said this is going to sound narcissistic, but I kind of am waiting for somebody to pull back the curtain and go.

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You did it, kat.

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You finally passed the test.

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You did all the hard things that you've been saying you want to do and saying you need to do and you finally did it.

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You finally did it.

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And our friend said to me she goes, you are being given that test by your best self.

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Okay, explain that Well to me.

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She was saying, like, your best self knows that this situation is not resolved.

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Your best self knows that you can do better in order to to take yourself out of a of a not good situation, and so, instead of me feeling like I'm on display to the world, who's testing me to see if I'm finally got life figured out or whatever?

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It's like I'm not being tested by anybody, yeah, other than the most authentic best me oh yeah, and back to your point of you spot it.

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You got it to some degree.

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I believe that we are just versions of ourselves.

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Like you are a version of me, and so if you annoy me or hurt my feelings or whatever, if there's conflict between us, you might have some things going on where you're pushing my buttons, but ultimately that doesn't matter.

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It matters how I manage what comes out of you, and it's like we try so hard to manage other people.

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And I mean I was reading that one of the um, one of the symptoms of trauma is when you're in a room and you read people and then you even change where you're headed.

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Or when you're in a room and you read people and then you even change where you're headed or what you're like say that I'm doing like uh, I'm sharing something about Enneagram on zoom and I start seeing people like checking out a little bit, or even just one person sometimes, and all of a sudden I'm like, oh, you need to say something funny to get them hooked back in and that whole dance is a whole thing of like I want to keep the connection.

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If I don't keep the connection, then something's wrong, when really no, if I'm bringing what I feel called to bring every day, whether that is just what I got, or my best self or love, or whatever I'm bringing is just what I got, or my best self or love or whatever I'm bringing that should be enough, but we can't stay in our own damn bubbles.

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No, I know, it's that whole be your own snowman thing.

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It's the whole.

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Like.

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This is where I end and you begin, and I have a great awareness of where that you know line or boundary is, and it's like I don't know why that's so hard.

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It is hard.

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I love that everything we're talking about is flowing into stuff.

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I have, um, this other quote that I was inspired by as a Georgia O'Keeffe quote, and um it says I have done nothing all summer, but wait for myself to be myself again.

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Oh, I know, that's how I felt.

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That's so good.

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I've done nothing all summer, but wait for myself to be myself again.

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Wow.

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And then I, I like, did this little.

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Why does that mean so much to me?

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And the phrase I wrote is I'm in constant pursuit of myself.

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I love that and I feel that way.

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Yeah, Lately especially, there's a phrase it might be Hafiz or someone like that, but it says something like I search for God, like someone with their head on fire searches for water.

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Wow.

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It's something to that point.

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I probably butchered it, sarah.

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Maybe you could like pray about it and tell us what it really says.

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But all that to say is there are some people in religious circles who have this huge fear around us spending too much time on ourselves, and it's about God and Jesus and and you know, don't be too selfish and become just this whatever, whatever, um.

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however, I believe if God is in us and we were created by the universe and God and all of those things, then it's okay to be on con in constant pursuit.

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It's okay to be on constant pursuit of ourselves.

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Well done, wow.

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Your inner chinese, uh, ancient guru, just I agree jumped back into this body that was amazing.

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Yeah, and that person's name is samu s-a-m-u s S-A-M-U.

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It just came up.

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Hi Samu Samu.

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Are you friends with the Yellow Emperor?

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I can be.

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If that creates more connection.

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That was an emotional bid for connection.

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Oh, Sarah's got something for us.

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Oh, it's not Hafiz, although I do feel like she's quoting someone, but it says it's elizabeth gilbert.

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Look for god.

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Look for god, like a man with his head on fire looks for water.

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I do think that's a quote from someone else she stole what a great quote.

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Yeah, it's a great.

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It's a great quote and I think that if we're, if if you do have the belief and and I think a lot of people listening do that in some way shape or form, we are partly a a result of our parents, like our genetics, and we are partly a result of divine, you know, and in Dallas philosophy in in particular, it's like you're a quarter mom, a quarter dad, half God.

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Oh, interesting, you know.

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And so it's like if that is the case and we're pursuing God, then I would think we would be pursuing first and foremost the God within us.

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Well and if?

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If we are truly created unique, which I've said this a million times over but why would we not celebrate that uniqueness and yet we try so hard to be like others?

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To fit in when, really, I think there are people looking for us.

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There are people looking for us and the only way that they will find that connection with God is if we are willing to be ourselves.

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Yes, and they are inspired by that to be themselves, yes.

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You said you had some stuff to show us this week.

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Some things to show you.

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Oh, I do have some things.

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I was thinking of the last thing I'm like not yet Okay Speaking of being ourselves and knowing when a yes is a yes and a no is a no.

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Can you play the first Instagram goodness that I found?

00:20:49.044 --> 00:20:52.626
And also, will you give us credit for who?

00:20:52.626 --> 00:20:52.847
This?

00:20:53.167 --> 00:20:55.269
is Okay, stacey underscore.

00:20:55.269 --> 00:21:01.296
Gray posted this, but apparently this is at Alexi Papas.

00:21:01.296 --> 00:21:04.188
Okay, she's a physiotherapist.

00:21:05.201 --> 00:21:10.913
I think you've only ever been thinking about your life in terms of good for me, bad for me, productive, unproductive.

00:21:10.913 --> 00:21:23.452
And she said every cell in our body when it's happy or safe, it expands and moves toward, and that's like the feeling of having a crush on someone.

00:21:23.452 --> 00:21:30.362
Or when someone's like let's go out to sushi, and you're like, yes, like that's a really it's a known feeling that we have.

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And she said it's cellular Every cell.

00:21:32.607 --> 00:21:35.240
When it's unsafe, it contracts and moves away.

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And that's what you feel when somebody puts food in front of you that you're allergic to or have had food poisoning or something you know, that feeling of like I just won't eat.

00:21:44.329 --> 00:21:45.201
That she said.

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I want you to start thinking about your life in terms of are these decisions expansive or contractive to me?

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Or now I think about it as do I have a crush on this decision?

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Contractive to me, or now I think about it as do I have a crush on this decision?

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And once I started doing that, it made decisions a lot easier for me and I started to actually evolve without overthinking the decisions I was making and doing things that like were surprising to me wow, isn't that good.

00:22:10.403 --> 00:22:12.546
Do I have a crush on this decision?

00:22:12.546 --> 00:22:14.890
That's exactly what I wrote down, oh my gosh.

00:22:14.890 --> 00:22:22.968
And it's so interesting because same wise friend, um, who was with me on the way to lunch the other day, I was telling her about a possible opportunity.

00:22:22.968 --> 00:22:30.647
I have coming up and and I said I think I want to do it, like so-and-so wants me to do it and so-and-so wants me to do it, what do you think about it?

00:22:30.647 --> 00:22:32.730
And she was like I think it's great if you want to do it.

00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:42.586
If you want to do it, yeah, and it just made me think for like a split second, like I haven't even really thought about if I want to do that.

00:22:42.925 --> 00:22:45.231
Yeah, I don't think to Enneagram twos.

00:22:45.231 --> 00:22:45.972
Think about that.

00:22:45.972 --> 00:22:49.929
You're like so and so wants me to, so I probably should.

00:22:49.969 --> 00:22:56.185
Yeah, and it's like if I, if I were to think about this situation and go, do I have a crush on that?

00:22:56.205 --> 00:23:02.825
I would say no, right, like you have a crush on the potential connection that could happen yes, you know me so well.

00:23:02.825 --> 00:23:06.271
Well, it's well, yeah, and there's no shame in any of that.

00:23:06.271 --> 00:23:13.009
The problem is is when we have a connection to an outcome and not just the process.

00:23:13.009 --> 00:23:15.593
Yeah, yeah, that's when it goes whirly.

00:23:15.593 --> 00:23:22.710
Yep, yeah, squirrely and whirly I was thinking I said something in last week's podcast.

00:23:22.809 --> 00:23:25.582
I said something that that meant one thing.

00:23:25.582 --> 00:23:30.272
What I, what I was trying to describe, was one thing, but the word I said did not mean that.

00:23:30.272 --> 00:23:32.087
Yeah, and I kept using it.

00:23:32.087 --> 00:23:48.165
It was kind of like when I was going, chicken tenders, chicken tenders oh yeah and I just kept yelling wings, wings which, by the way, I've thought about this since last week and I feel more and more angry.

00:23:48.165 --> 00:23:53.232
Oh that this woman vera, I think, was her name, oh yeah.

00:23:53.374 --> 00:23:54.174
Vera Liddell.

00:23:54.315 --> 00:24:00.478
Yes that she ordered $11 million of chicken wings or something like that.

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I think it was 11.5.

00:24:01.339 --> 00:24:06.251
11.5 and is now serving nine years of prison sentence.

00:24:06.251 --> 00:24:06.792
No.

00:24:07.214 --> 00:24:08.016
We have an update.

00:24:08.016 --> 00:24:09.179
Oh, do you have?

00:24:09.199 --> 00:24:09.440
an update.

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:10.585
I'm trying to pull it up right now.

00:24:10.819 --> 00:24:12.261
She's going to pull up the update.

00:24:12.261 --> 00:24:12.903
Keep going.

00:24:13.022 --> 00:24:38.220
Well, I was just thinking how angry I am yeah that there was no consequence from my hacker well, I noticed that some anger came up for you last week like it really and I and I knew it made me mad last week but the more I've thought about it is I'm like there is actually a justice system that has said to this woman you have stolen from children.

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:40.648
You have stolen chicken wings from children.

00:24:40.648 --> 00:24:41.904
That's not okay.

00:24:41.904 --> 00:24:44.007
I agree that that's not okay.

00:24:44.007 --> 00:24:49.109
Right, the same justice system could not help me in any way.

00:24:49.832 --> 00:24:52.612
Agreed and I think you're going to have to let go of that.

00:24:52.612 --> 00:25:00.409
Thanks, well, no, I just I'm just saying it's it's not gonna go well, but you might be glad to hear that that.

00:25:00.409 --> 00:25:01.309
Norma.

00:25:01.309 --> 00:25:04.003
Can you read us the update for?

00:25:04.065 --> 00:25:08.769
sure you the same person.

00:25:08.789 --> 00:25:13.944
I need more shoulders of you oh, there you go yeah, you look like a little head sticking up.

00:25:14.707 --> 00:25:19.673
They get a little crooked from time to time.

00:25:19.673 --> 00:25:49.915
I love you so much, sarah, I love you too okay, the same person that wrote in amanda about the chicken wing yes, fight, feist, heist, heist, great band though yes, um, she wrote in again and said and another one Breaking Kansas City Chiefs star, chris Jones, says that he will pay one point five million dollars worth of stolen chicken wings by an Illinois school worker to help her get released from jail.

00:25:51.582 --> 00:26:13.507
So wait, yeah, so basically this guy from the Chiefss maybe she couldn't afford the bail, so had to go to jail oh anyway, he's willing to pay a hundred a million, 1.5 million dollars to help pay for some of the wings so I think she doesn't have to go to jail is the point.

00:26:13.961 --> 00:26:15.166
Why would he do that?

00:26:15.166 --> 00:26:16.951
I don't know.

00:26:16.951 --> 00:26:19.939
I mean, I think it's fantastic.

00:26:19.939 --> 00:26:29.683
Maybe he is also a big fan of wings and he read the story teacher or something oh yeah well, I think she's a cafeteria jones

00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:30.652
chris jones.

00:26:30.652 --> 00:26:52.015
Chris jones, I'm calling out to chris jones, from the cat and moose podcast, from the animal den itself if you have got 1.55 million that you are willing to donate to this woman who stole $1.5 million worth of chicken wings no $11.5,.

00:26:52.056 --> 00:26:52.356
I think.

00:26:52.730 --> 00:26:58.786
Oh, $11.5 million, God, that's so much chicken, the poor chickens Okay, this is two days ago.

00:26:58.806 --> 00:27:01.097
Chicken, the poor chickens Okay, this is two days ago.

00:27:01.097 --> 00:27:06.990
Nfl star Chris Jones offers to pay $1.5 million worth of stolen chicken wings after cafeteria worker is sentenced.

00:27:06.990 --> 00:27:11.461
Vera Liddell says my fate is in God's hands.

00:27:11.461 --> 00:27:20.723
Oh, that's what she told her lawyer shortly before Kansas City Chiefs defensive tackle tweeted his offer.

00:27:20.723 --> 00:27:22.070
Oh, he tweeted it.

00:27:22.070 --> 00:27:24.415
Hey, that's one way to do it, could you?

00:27:24.415 --> 00:27:26.059
Could you, sarah?

00:27:26.059 --> 00:27:30.313
You got to put this up there, you guys.

00:27:30.313 --> 00:27:34.138
He said I'll pay for the wing she stole to get her free.

00:27:34.138 --> 00:27:38.010
Oh, oh my gosh, I'm sending this to you.

00:27:38.332 --> 00:27:49.952
Well, that is so sweet on the screen and, like I said in the meantime, chris, if you want to send some money to some people who could really use it, I.

00:27:50.073 --> 00:27:57.140
There's a picture of vera and I love her oh, vera, my girl.

00:27:58.622 --> 00:27:59.903
Oh, I love her so much.

00:27:59.903 --> 00:28:03.405
Okay, she is Vera, let's see.

00:28:03.405 --> 00:28:03.906
And her wings.

00:28:04.329 --> 00:28:07.356
Those might not be her wings, they might just be a picture of wings.

00:28:09.590 --> 00:28:11.679
Yeah, like were the wings sauced already.

00:28:12.191 --> 00:28:14.498
Were they breaded sauced raw Right.

00:28:14.518 --> 00:28:15.180
Hopefully not.

00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:18.432
She can do whatever she wants, right, she can have different varieties.

00:28:18.432 --> 00:28:33.076
My thought is, maybe she knows someone like family member, somebody owns a restaurant, like, who needs that many, like Kat, on the, on the episode you were counting out it was six months over the course of six months she stole that many, yeah.

00:28:33.416 --> 00:28:39.340
And I think we, we said there's 36 wings per case and she sold.

00:28:39.340 --> 00:28:40.683
No, she stole.

00:28:45.710 --> 00:28:47.134
I don't remember the number I came up with, but it was a lot.

00:28:47.134 --> 00:28:48.698
Okay, this is the messed up part.

00:28:48.698 --> 00:28:49.942
I was stunned.

00:28:49.942 --> 00:28:51.025
This is her lawyer.

00:28:51.025 --> 00:28:54.817
I've been doing this for 42 years and I've never heard anything like this.

00:28:54.817 --> 00:29:03.251
The lawyer spent a good deal of time on the phone, waiting on hold, trying to contact the chiefs, before he says he was disconnected.

00:29:03.251 --> 00:29:08.083
Then he says he got a call from someone he believes to be representing jones.

00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:43.445
I hope everything works out so we can get her out, but she is supposed to be in jail until 2029 at at least yeah, I mean, and while I I agree like commit a crime, have a sentence, like I get it, like I I believe in like that concept sure, and I just think that like the fact that our justice system can enforce that kind of penalty on her yeah but not on some other more common mundane crimes, is very frustrating to me.

00:29:43.951 --> 00:29:52.704
It makes me feel like our um, our justice, our justice system is amorphous yeah, do you agree?

00:29:53.711 --> 00:29:57.076
amorphous, amorphous, don't know it.

00:29:57.076 --> 00:30:01.883
This is cat's vocabulary word amorphous.

00:30:01.982 --> 00:30:05.433
Amorphous this is a new word that I learned, so let's pick it apart.

00:30:05.433 --> 00:30:13.194
So when you think of something morphing yes, it's morphing into a butterfly right, it was something that is defined, right?

00:30:13.494 --> 00:30:17.640
so amorphous oh, amorphous Is undefined.

00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.344
Oh, so it is a spirit you can unsee.

00:30:22.965 --> 00:30:25.413
Yes For you.

00:30:25.413 --> 00:30:26.858
Yes, Maybe that's what it is.

00:30:26.858 --> 00:30:29.097
It's basically anything that's undefined.

00:30:29.097 --> 00:30:31.037
That doesn't mean anything to me.

00:30:31.037 --> 00:30:32.695
That's because it's amorphous.

00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:37.101
But give me an example, a concrete, amorphous-y example.

00:30:37.622 --> 00:30:43.590
Okay, amorphousy example.

00:30:43.590 --> 00:30:48.921
Okay, so, for example, the character known as the holy spirit, most would say, is a very amorphous character because you can't pin them down.

00:30:50.242 --> 00:30:52.011
Is it a him pin?

00:30:52.212 --> 00:30:52.953
them down.

00:30:52.953 --> 00:30:53.836
Is it a them?

00:30:53.836 --> 00:30:56.160
They right, it's just undefined.

00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:56.601
It's like.

00:30:56.601 --> 00:30:57.923
It's like the holy spirit.

00:30:57.923 --> 00:31:00.355
We know that it or we believe if.

00:31:00.355 --> 00:31:05.453
If we're Christian people, we believe that it is a character, it is a thing, but it's not.

00:31:05.453 --> 00:31:06.959
It's not really defined.

00:31:06.959 --> 00:31:08.536
But what is the morph part?

00:31:08.536 --> 00:31:11.895
It's, it's amorphous.

00:31:12.739 --> 00:31:13.019
Okay.

00:31:13.269 --> 00:31:16.913
So it's like like uh, it can't be morphed.

00:31:16.913 --> 00:31:18.374
Yeah, Like it.

00:31:18.374 --> 00:31:19.976
Yeah, Kind of yes.

00:31:20.395 --> 00:31:21.656
Like asexual.

00:31:21.656 --> 00:31:22.917
Can't be morphed yeah.

00:31:22.938 --> 00:31:23.278
Like it.

00:31:23.278 --> 00:31:25.519
Yeah, kind of yes Like a sexual, great yes Like a sexual, yeah.

00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.301
So basically it means a sexual.

00:31:27.301 --> 00:31:29.284
Okay, got it, thank you.

00:31:29.284 --> 00:31:32.205
That's all I've been trying to say for 10 minutes.

00:31:32.266 --> 00:31:43.652
God guys just ask me we're, we're education tutoring podcast Um so amorphous means asexual.

00:31:43.672 --> 00:31:50.736
We don't know if that's true or not, but that's the kind of podcast you're listening to, yes, and while we're on really scientific, really important things, you asked me today how my foot was.

00:31:50.736 --> 00:31:53.182
Yes, and my foot still really hurts.

00:31:53.182 --> 00:31:58.458
My right foot was injured almost five years ago and has just not been the same ever since.

00:31:58.458 --> 00:32:03.211
And um, I'm seeing this neuro chiropractor, Dr Tyler Hurst.

00:32:03.211 --> 00:32:14.368
We've talked about the brain health clinics here in Nashville and um, he did some work on my foot last week and said that he is suspicious about.

00:32:14.368 --> 00:32:18.059
He didn't use the word suspicious, he said I suspect similar word.

00:32:18.391 --> 00:32:19.654
The kids call that sus.

00:32:20.919 --> 00:32:21.279
I'm sus.

00:32:28.957 --> 00:32:30.280
Your laugh is like Sus Sus.

00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:41.734
So he susses, he susses that my, my perineal nerve, your perineum.

00:32:41.755 --> 00:32:42.659
Not the perineum.

00:32:42.659 --> 00:32:45.268
Oh I, I was like, why is he poking around there?

00:32:45.288 --> 00:32:47.232
he's not poking around anywhere near there.

00:32:47.272 --> 00:33:11.833
Well, he did do a cold laser on my sacrum, so that's relatively close but, um, anyway, the, the perineal nerve I think I'm saying that right it begins actually in the sciatic nerve and it goes from the sciatic nerve down your hip, the hip and the side and the backs of the leg that's what all my pain is.

00:33:11.833 --> 00:33:16.060
And then it does this wrapping thing in the muscles.

00:33:16.060 --> 00:33:28.156
And he was basically saying, like, in his opinion, that nerve has gotten like super like damaged and tangled and so what we're trying to do is stretch it out and let it.

00:33:28.156 --> 00:33:32.344
Let it kind of stretch out and untangle.

00:33:33.550 --> 00:33:44.678
And when he was doing all this work on my foot, trying to work on the very end of that nerve, said to me when you go home tonight or tomorrow morning, you might have lower back pain.

00:33:44.678 --> 00:33:49.893
And I was like you're crazy, you're working on my foot, interesting, like how am I gonna have lower back pain?

00:33:49.893 --> 00:33:56.472
And I'll be damned if I didn't get home, do my exercises I was supposed to do that night, get in bed.

00:33:56.472 --> 00:33:59.862
The next morning I woke up and I had lower back pain.

00:34:00.001 --> 00:34:02.594
That is wild and I'm like okay, like that's connected.

00:34:02.594 --> 00:34:16.735
So I've been doing all these exercises to try and stretch and untangle that nerve and he's saying that if we effectively together do that, you won't need surgery I might not I don't think you should get surgery.

00:34:16.795 --> 00:34:18.739
Well, thanks, I don't want to get surgery.

00:34:18.739 --> 00:34:20.322
I've had so many.

00:34:20.322 --> 00:34:24.753
I my mom truly believes she was like don't do it.

00:34:24.753 --> 00:34:26.639
And I know some people need surgery.

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:27.380
Let me say that.

00:34:27.380 --> 00:34:31.018
But if you could do that without surgery, that'd be incredible.

00:34:31.077 --> 00:34:33.672
Yes, I'm doing everything he told me to do.

00:34:33.672 --> 00:34:38.570
All the supplements, I'm doing the exercises, I'm playing little brain games.

00:34:38.570 --> 00:34:44.275
I've got this little ADHD game that he didn't recommend, but I think it's helping me what's the name of it again?

00:34:44.335 --> 00:34:45.981
it's called impulse are you.

00:34:46.001 --> 00:34:46.851
I can't wait to try it.

00:34:46.851 --> 00:34:48.735
No, I've downloaded it, but I haven't started yet.

00:34:48.815 --> 00:34:52.771
I'm obsessed with it do you take anything for your adhd?

00:34:52.771 --> 00:34:55.617
No, no, do you not think you have it?

00:34:55.617 --> 00:34:56.539
I don't know.

00:34:56.539 --> 00:35:01.054
Oh, I don't know I definitely they gave me something and it didn't do anything for me.

00:35:01.054 --> 00:35:01.777
Was it Adderall?

00:35:01.777 --> 00:35:03.179
No, it was like.

00:35:03.179 --> 00:35:08.215
It was like just give her this placebo, like I think it was like a gummy bear.

00:35:08.215 --> 00:35:10.530
Yeah, not like a gummy.

00:35:10.731 --> 00:35:12.393
Yeah, not like a sleep gummy Right.

00:35:12.552 --> 00:35:14.173
Yeah, or a weed gummy.

00:35:14.173 --> 00:35:15.014
That's what I.

00:35:15.014 --> 00:35:22.722
Oh, didn't you have an audio voice memo that you wanted to share with us?

00:35:22.963 --> 00:35:27.487
Well, I thought I did, but it wasn't as juicy as I thought it was.

00:35:27.487 --> 00:35:27.887
You sure?

00:35:27.887 --> 00:35:30.532
Yeah, no, I'm really sure.

00:35:30.532 --> 00:35:54.260
I was sitting out beside my pool the other night and letting my injured foot just kind of float in the water and I took this little poetic journey with myself around Chinese five element theory in the seasons that's amazing and I talked about how the leaves were bringing their, their essence of late summer to the water element.

00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:57.615
And I like I got sounds like hey, that voice was coming out.

00:35:57.878 --> 00:36:00.931
Oh yes, the the you might consider friend.

00:36:00.971 --> 00:36:03.414
You you might consider Friend.

00:36:03.614 --> 00:36:05.719
You might consider Friend.

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.182
It's like you roll your R's.

00:36:09.003 --> 00:36:09.505
Friend.

00:36:10.130 --> 00:36:12.434
Friend, it's so dirty.

00:36:12.434 --> 00:36:15.061
What's the scritchy scratchy thing that you always say?

00:36:15.061 --> 00:36:20.675
Scritchy scratchy, what are you?

00:36:20.715 --> 00:36:26.164
saying that, for it's just when the cats use the scratch pad and they really good after it.

00:36:26.164 --> 00:36:34.132
And it reminds me of them going scratchy, scratchy, scratchy scratchy.

00:36:34.172 --> 00:36:34.753
That's fantastic.

00:36:34.753 --> 00:36:38.838
So this voicemail wasn't as juicy as you had hoped it really wasn't.

00:36:38.838 --> 00:36:42.922
You often will like kind of journal verbally.

00:36:42.922 --> 00:36:44.664
I do In the evenings yeah.

00:36:44.704 --> 00:36:58.695
Because I really, really like to verbally process, yeah, and I can imagine that there are some humans who would enjoy listening to me doing that, like I can imagine that that's a possibility that could be its own podcast.

00:36:58.755 --> 00:36:59.878
Really, it probably could, yeah.

00:36:59.898 --> 00:37:00.219
Definitely.

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:00.760
Yeah.

00:37:02.389 --> 00:37:10.032
I think there might be three people interested in it, and I really do enjoy just like kind of verbally, working my shit out over journal.

00:37:10.032 --> 00:37:13.581
And that's one of the things that that this doctor has told me to do is.

00:37:13.581 --> 00:37:26.235
He's like I want you to have a journal of some kind, and it's like I started trying to do it for a few days with writing and I'm like, ah, and I was like no, I'm just going to do these like audio or video journals and it's really, really helped me a lot.

00:37:26.414 --> 00:37:26.876
I love it.

00:37:26.876 --> 00:37:27.498
I've enjoyed it.

00:37:27.498 --> 00:37:28.260
I love it.

00:37:28.260 --> 00:37:38.440
I um have saved a few that you have sent and shared with us, and um those will be played at your funeral if I'm alive and you're not Okay.

00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.985
I had a friend the other day say do you realize that not all of us will attend each other's funerals?

00:37:42.985 --> 00:37:44.697
And that freaked me out.

00:37:44.777 --> 00:37:47.505
Yeah, what a morbid thought, but it's true.

00:37:47.505 --> 00:37:48.431
Yeah, like either.

00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:50.416
I'm going to yours or you're going to mine.

00:37:50.416 --> 00:37:51.418
Awful yeah.

00:37:53.230 --> 00:37:54.253
Unless we die together.

00:37:54.253 --> 00:37:56.840
On a plane, yeah, or in a car, yeah.

00:38:03.311 --> 00:38:03.771
Or yeah or any.

00:38:03.771 --> 00:38:06.416
However, we could do for the thelma and louise the three of us.

00:38:06.416 --> 00:38:07.639
And then the podcast finally blows up.

00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.577
Yes, the moment they died, the press release says like go back and listen to all eight seasons yes um, I would love to.

00:38:13.958 --> 00:38:21.623
I would love to end this week's podcast with, um, the last link that I sent you, sar, sarah, don't look just yet.

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But, kat, when I saw this, I thought of you and then I thought, sarah, you're kind of nerdy as well, yeah, and you might like this as well.

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So this, if you guys want it, it could be a Christmas gift.

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Oh, they're called anatomy sweaters.

00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:48.010
Oh, Look at that.

00:38:48.010 --> 00:38:49.733
Wow, well, look at that, that's actually pretty stunning.

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You guys, can you describe to our non-video listeners what is happening?

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Cat's face.

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So what's happening here?

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So so, okay, that's beautiful.

00:39:03.724 --> 00:39:10.579
Wow, oh, I'm so fascinated with the body, so, yes, I laughed so hard when I saw that last night.

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There has to be one with all the energetic meridians on?

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I would think so, so I'm gonna need it.

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Basically, could you put it back up?

00:39:18.376 --> 00:39:22.023
Yeah, we need to describe to the audio only people.

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What we're looking at, we're looking at a very slender woman with long straight hair who's wearing like a mock turtleneck, uh-huh and.

00:39:30.992 --> 00:39:31.954
But it's like knitted.

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It's knitted and sweater the design yeah, it's like a sweater.

00:39:36.362 --> 00:39:49.731
The design in one of these is showing like her skeletal system on the inside, and then one is showing like the intestine and one is showing the lungs and one is showing the what are?

00:39:49.771 --> 00:39:54.807
those up on the shoulders maybe those are lymph they're called anatomy sweaters.

00:39:54.807 --> 00:39:58.014
Anatomy sweat but again, I love the comments here.

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Sw Swiss mechanic, swiss mechanical Marvel said you have to have guts to wear that.

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This is the most bizarre thing I've seen in a while.

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Geez, can someone help me unsee this?

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I mean what's so crazy is like would you really wear that like with guts somewhere?

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I would wear it to class Like without question.

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Yeah, or like a holiday party.

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Someone else said yeah, like an ugly sweater.

00:40:28.297 --> 00:40:28.918
Yeah.

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Let's all get one for ugly clothes.

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Yeah, great idea.

00:40:33.230 --> 00:40:34.889
We can put little bows on the intestines.

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I was going to say we can put a little jingle bell.

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Little lights around the ribs we can put like a screw in there.

00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:44.550
Oh that's good.

00:40:44.550 --> 00:40:45.072
Yeah, it's really good.

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I swallowed a screw once.

00:40:46.016 --> 00:40:46.699
I know you did.

00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:49.228
There's a nail wild yeah, I remember that story.

00:40:49.228 --> 00:40:50.452
You told it on the podcast.

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Oh, I think, like year two.

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This is a podcast where we repeat stories over and over so don't worry about going back and listening, you'll hear it again.

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Well, guys, well, well, it's over, it's over.

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Thanks for coming.

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Thanks for being here.

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