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Nov. 17, 2023

Medicine Women and a Sisyphean Task

Medicine Women and a Sisyphean Task

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Ever wondered what it feels like to be a Medicine Person, embodying the energy and power that comes with the role? Join us as we explore this fascinating concept after a personal challenge Moose presented to Kat on her birthday. We imagine what a Medicine Person party would look like and reflect on the significance of dressing up for occasions. Along this journey, we delve into the healing properties, the physical and mental transformations that come with advancing age.

Imagine your body as a stalwart protector, tirelessly working to shield you from trauma, and the magic that lies in learning to listen to its whispers. We share personal stories of panic attacks and terrifying encounters, and how our bodies react in these situations. What if our body parts had different Enneagram numbers? We pose this thought-provoking question and discuss what it could signify. A little levity is sprinkled in as we reminisce about a hilarious incident from Moose's twenties involving a unique way of spelling her name and a hip thrust!

Reflecting on four years of consistently delivering the 'Kat and Moose' podcast, we can't help but draw parallels with Sisyphus pushing his boulder. Just like him, we've faced our own challenges with unflinching determination. We express our gratitude towards Producer Sara, and discuss our thoughts on body judgments and the importance of having open conversations about them. Pull up a chair and join us in this roller coaster chat full of intriguing topics.

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Chapters

00:04 - Human Quirks Podcast With Cats and Moose

09:52 - Embracing the Medicine Person Role

16:35 - The Body, Trauma, and Magic

30:33 - Sisyphus, Body Judgments, and Reflections

45:11 - Appreciation for Four Years of Consistency

Transcript
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.

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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.

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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

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Okay, hi Kat, hey Moose, hi Sarah.

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Hello, hello, hello Everyone, hi guys Welcome Welcome.

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Welcome.

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Oh, my goodness, what's going on in your lives?

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Lord Jesus, what's happening, Lord?

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I got so many notes this week and it's one of those weeks where I'm curious if I'm going to hit any of them.

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Well good, hey, you never know where this can turn.

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Well, now that we're the Jeopardy podcast and we pick categories like, that's certainly a place we can go Miss.

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Yeah, it is.

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What are your categories this week?

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Oh, I have so many.

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Holistic body health.

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Oh, that's surprising.

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Sexy men Wait, sexy men.

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Mm-hmm, gluten, greek mythology, birthdays, earthquakes, oh wow.

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Just a few light topics there, Kat.

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Yeah, you know, leave it to me to keep it light, Miss.

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I mean your name this week on the Zoom is Kat is a Greek goddess, yes, so that could be a hint.

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Oh, can we start by talking?

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Have we talked about your birthday yet?

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Uh-uh, no, okay, first of all, happy belated birthday.

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Thank you.

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If you're like Kat a cheer.

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If I had my clarinet right here, I would play you a song.

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You seem like a monkey and you look like a monkey.

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Which one would you play?

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Which clarinet?

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No, which song would you play?

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I would just play the chords that come to me.

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I'm sort of like Mozart when it comes to clarinet.

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You'd have a dancer than a player.

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Correct.

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Yeah, One of my favorite things that happened at your birthday party, by the way.

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Well, let's start by saying that we had Japanese A5 steak, which if you have not had it.

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It is like melt in your mouth.

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Delicious, heavenly.

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Oh my gosh, it was so good.

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This is a great opportunity for us to give a shout out to one of our sponsors, and when we say sponsors, I want to be sure that you guys know what we're talking about.

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These are people that we pay money to to have experiences that we talk about on the podcast.

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Yeah, and they don't realize we exist.

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Right, yeah, yeah, we sponsor people, we have thousands of sponsors.

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I mean, it is like it's really undeniable, yeah.

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And this week's sponsor comes to us from the New York butcher in Green Hills, a chain butcher place thing store, and they have all these like pre-made, like foods that are delicious and they have the most prime, most choice cuts of meat, and I'm talking everything from beef to poultry to sausage, to all chicken, all the things.

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They have it all.

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And they are the only place that I have found this far in Nashville that's not a restaurant that will sell you Japanese A5 Wagyu fillet pieces.

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Oh my gosh.

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Wagyu, wagyu, wagyu, wagyu-do, oh Wagyu-do.

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Wagyu-do you guys have to try this steak?

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It's so good.

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If you're a vegetarian, don't try it.

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It'll get very sick.

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Yeah, it's not raw, but you just have to eat meat in a while.

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Yeah, exactly, that's right.

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Okay.

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So then we had this amazing steak, we had this amazing hang time.

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Your sister thought it would be a really fun thing to go around to the handful of folks that were there and really challenge us to share a story about a song where we have mistaken the lyrics for something else.

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Yeah.

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And we've talked about that a little bit on the podcast before.

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But there were some winners in that group for sure.

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There were some winners in that group.

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What really stood out to you guys?

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I don't remember at all, but it was funny.

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I remember us laughing a lot.

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It's okay that I don't remember it is okay, the one that Julie brought up, hush hush.

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Is that what it's called?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Oh, hush hush.

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Keep it down now.

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This is scary.

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Instead of voices carry, voices carry.

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This is scary.

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My sister told me the story behind that song and she probably told all of us that night that it was written because of an affair that was happening and the writer was basically saying hush, hush, keep it down.

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Now voices carry.

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You don't want to be heard.

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Well, somebody else, though, said it was a domestic dispute, but then your sister was like oh yeah.

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Well, the last line gives it away that it was an affair.

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And so a lot is going on in that song.

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Yeah, there's a lot going on in that song and the one that stood out to me.

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It actually just came up today.

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One of my clients is talking about doing a cover remake of a Credence Clearwater revival song.

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Yeah, and the song is it's not Blame it on the Rain, that's Millie Vanilly.

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Oh, Blame it on the rain it was fully falling.

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Blame it on the stars.

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I love that.

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You know what?

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I'm so pissed that Millie Vanilly got this f**k that they got.

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I mean, look at all these tiktok, tiktop, nope, yeah, exactly, Tiktok stars.

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All they're doing is lip syncing and they're like superstars and they're being celebrated.

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I know yeah basically like Millie Vanilly does the same thing and basically trashes one of Diane Warren's best written songs ever Blame it on the Rain.

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I asked somebody the other day.

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I said do you think it would be good advice for me to offer to one of my clients that they should re-record Blame it on the Rain?

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And my friend just looked at me like no, did you?

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have the wrong song.

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Was it the CCR song you were talking?

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about?

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No, I was literally talking about the Milly Vanilly song, because I feel like it needs to have its day.

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It needs to be resurrected because that song is a great song.

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I didn't know it was a cover.

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I thought it was their song.

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No, it is their song.

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It's their song written by Diane Warren, and I guess what I'm saying is nobody has covered it because you don't want to go like I, synonymous Milly Vanilly, and it's like, well, but why not?

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Yeah, it's like these days and the days of tiki-taki.

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Tiki-taki Right.

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Another song from either the 80s or 90s.

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That was a little, was a lot once you realized what it was is that song by Suzanne Vega.

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My name is Luka.

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I live on the second floor.

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I live upstairs from you.

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I guess I think I've seen you before and then.

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The next slide is if you hear something late at night some kind of trouble some kind of fight.

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Don't ask me what it was, Please don't ask me what it was.

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And then she's like remember she talked about being clumsy.

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It's like no, he's hitting you, Run Wow.

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Bless her heart.

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This is really an uplifting episode.

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It really is an uplifting.

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But okay, wait, there were more things at your birthday that were fun.

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Well, there were lots of things, including the bottle of whiskey that you guys got me, and then the whiskey flavored toothpicks that you guys got me.

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Dear Lord, yeah, delicious right, yes, delicious, because that's exactly what I want to do is walk into a meeting smelling like whiskey.

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So I mean the good thing is, the toothpicks allow you to be drunk when you walk into that meeting without people realizing it.

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They're just whiskey flavored.

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Yeah, don't worry, it's just a flavor.

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Yeah, if they smell on you.

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Offer them a toothpick.

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It's like a really great way to hide alcoholism.

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Okay.

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Yep, I got a Lego tiger for my birthday.

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I got a necklace for my birthday.

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I got another necklace for my birthday that had the Phoenix Rising on the emblem it's so cool.

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And I got a canvas collage of lovely time that I got to spend in Colorado with our friends.

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And I got this really cool science 3D model thing.

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I'm sure you guys are shocked by this, but it's a model of the body and it has all of the internal organs and it has all of the muscles and it has all of the bones and if you open up the skull, there's a little brain in there.

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Oh my gosh, like it's so cool, but it allows me to be able to show my clients.

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When I say, do you know where your pubic synthesis is?

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Oh yeah, I can say, look, it's right here, without me touching there, right.

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And exactly what happens when the pubic is synthesizing, it joins together and when it's touched.

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Sarah, can you give me like a little church synthesizer, oh yeah, or like mer-mer-mer?

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Like an organ, or like a.

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Yeah, oh, okay, I feel like it was appropriate yeah, for sure.

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Okay, but really my favorite part, though, kat, was when we all imparted wisdom onto you.

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All right, maybe it was just me, I don't remember, but I gave you a challenge that I think everyone else there thought maybe I was joking until I wasn't laughing, and then they were like oh, she's totally serious, and you totally understood where I was coming from, and so do you remember that challenge?

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I don't, oh my God, wow, but like blame it on the rain, like blame it Like it was a great birthday.

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There was a lot going on and I do believe that my body remembers it and I believe that my soul remembers it.

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But as you will remember it as soon as I tell you.

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I know I will and, as one of my favorite artists said one time, please blame it on my head and not my heart.

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Oh, okay, did they talk like that.

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They didn't.

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Oh Okay.

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So I challenged you because we love so much to dress up for things and we dress up like our dads and I want to be very careful about this because I don't want to be disrespectful at all, because there's nothing disrespectful about what we would be doing, but I challenged you.

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You've been told before by spiritual people that you were previously a Chinese medicine woman, or maybe man Was it a man?

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Was there a gender?

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Yeah, it was a man, okay.

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So I challenged you to impart that, to put that inside of you and to live from that.

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Whether that means new practices, new clothes, whatever it is, I was like embrace that, because that is a healer that you are.

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Yes, right.

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And it was quite interesting the way that was received.

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And I was laughing when I shared it, but I was absolutely serious.

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I was laughing because everyone else was and I was like, oh, I'm totally serious about this and I felt so sincere.

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I was very sincere when I shared that of like I feel like this is something you're supposed to embody and I didn't know if you had thought about it anymore, but clearly you hadn't, because you forgot about it.

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Well, that's actually not true and, like I said, my body remembered, my soul remembered and my brain is just a little bit like duh, because I am moving into this next season of my life trying to embrace that and I just practiced that today, like I had a session today that I think was really awesome and really powerful, not because I am a healer, but because I have been taught and also, I think, have somewhat of a natural ability to hold space for people.

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And the thing I didn't do is I didn't dress in the beads and the pleather, like frontal thing that you described so lovely at my birthday party.

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I saw it in my mind, yeah.

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And so what I'm curious about is like do I need to go get these earrings and these beads?

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And like, do I need?

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To physically, tangibly, like dress, like a medicine.

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I don't know.

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I don't know, and I know that in some cases that is not very well respected in the world, but I do want to say there's something about you embodying it.

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So I don't know if it's a dress up thing, or you putting on, you know, an eye mask and some headphones and going there in a mental state, but I just feel like he or she is waiting for you in another dimension to fully walk into that healer mode.

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Thank you so much, Moose.

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I really received that from you and I will not forget it.

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The yeah.

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The Christians call that prophesying Sarah, you raised your hand, You've been called on.

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See, I remember it a little differently, Like y'all were, you brought this up and Moose wanted everybody to dress like a medicine person.

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Oh yeah.

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I remember.

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Mark saying that it should be this one.

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Oh yeah.

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Somehow he turned Dr Quinn medicine woman.

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She's very white by the way, and she's really pretty.

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Wow, beautiful, do I?

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look like her.

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Oh yeah, Jane.

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Seymour no, you don't, but we could get you a wig.

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If you want to look like her, I can get you that outfit.

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No, I won't.

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But that was the only medicine woman that our friend Mark knew, so he thought we were doing a Jane Seymour party.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But we're not and you could, totally, totally, could Dr.

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Quinn parties.

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All options are open all day long.

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I do think we should have a medicine person party and everyone should come dressed as they think fits and bring whatever applicable medicine oh yes, you want to share with the group.

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Can we please?

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Maybe that would be my birthday party.

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Yeah, I mean that's coming up.

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Sarah, like Moose, do you have any more of those ketamine pills?

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Ooh, I just used the last of them.

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Right now.

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Yeah, I was like dang, this is not what I thought ketamine was like at all.

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No, I just recently did the last of my loss hinges and set an intention and all of that and it was really good.

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Oh, that's awesome Best sleep of my life, by the way, nice.

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But yeah, I can get us some more, don't worry, there's a thing called deers.

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You got a deers.

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Yeah, you got a dealer, I have a doctor.

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Yeah, I am all into the medicine person celebration, so hear me say that I'm very into it.

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Okay, good, well, wonderful, well, I'm glad you had a wonderful birthday.

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And thank you for the well wishes.

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I am 48 years old, fantastic, and I feel like on November, the 9th, the day after my birthday, I feel like my body said just so you know you turn 48.

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Because I had the weirdest aches and pains and like I was fine, but it's like I felt like my body just wanted to give me a full day of like there's a lot in here that can go wrong and we're just going to give you a little preview, you know like, and I feel I feel, like I feel thankful to my body for that.

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And thankfully my body has not stayed in that state.

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You're good, but you do have a precursor of what's to come.

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Yeah, okay, well, hey me.

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That could be grateful.

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I would like to talk about our bodies for a moment.

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I had this scenario.

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I wasn't even going to talk about this, but you know, the good Lord works in mysterious ways and I had.

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I've had a few panic attacks lately and I haven't had those in a long time, and I had one recently and I'll explain what, for me, that feels like.

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It feels like a major tightness in my chest and it goes through to my back and I feel like I'm having a heart attack.

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Is what my mind tells me, what my body tells me.

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It's like this intense overwhelm and stress and oh my God, I'm going to die is what my brain is telling me and all of that and luckily I have grand people like Sarah around me usually when something like that's about to go on or is going on and I had it the other day on the way to an event- my birthday party no.

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No, but what was so interesting is we were listening to something and there was something very specific that the person said and literally my body reacted.

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It was like some sort of PTSD where I had this intense pain.

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Sarah was driving and I was like, can you pull over?

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And we were in East Nashville, right by Shelby Park, so she pulled in there and I was just walking around, bending over and stretching and trying to physically remove this pain.

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And it wasn't until Sarah was like I think you were triggered and I realized emotions created the physical pain.

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And even though that is all like oh, I'm so sorry you had that, I'm still very fascinated by it.

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It took me about 15, 20 minutes to kind of come out of it and to calm down and not feel panicked anymore.

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But it was a good reminder for me to recognize like, okay, everything that we need is right inside of us and there's trauma that has happened to us, whether emotional or verbal or physical, whatever that is.

00:18:51.374 --> 00:18:58.577
But when it comes up again it's just like the parts work that we talk about with internal family systems.

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There is a part going.

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Oh my God, I just heard something that reminded me of something and I had a very similar experience I would guess it was eight, 10 years ago where I saw an ex-boyfriend of mine in a liquor store on New Year's Eve and I was heading to a New Year's party that you were at and a bunch of people were at, and I saw him and there was like Not good things that happened with this guy and I left and I got in the car and I thought I was having a stroke, similar feeling.

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I felt panicked and nervous and sweaty and all the things.

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And I got to our friend's house and I Could not verbalize my words weren't working to the point that I was like, oh, I actually am having stroke, right, because I couldn't put a sentence together and luckily our friends were like sit down.

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I couldn't even share what happened and I had called my mom on the way.

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My mom didn't know this boyfriend very well at all, but I just said something is going on with me.

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I had this, so this.

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But anyway, all that say that's two different times in my life that I can.

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I'm sure it's happened more times.

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I've just not connected it, but it's like our body is Constantly trying to protect us.

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Oh man and isn't that beautiful in like so many ways, even though sometimes it can be very scary?

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Yeah, it's like it's warning us when to go, where not to go, who to spend time with, who not to spend time with.

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Yeah, and I just think that in itself is Magic.

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to me, it's magic, it's 100% magic, like I agree.

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I agree that it's so magic and I think that that it's kind of interesting.

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I've never thought about the different parts of our being Having enneagram numbers, but you just made me think of it.

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Like what if our bodies are eight, wow.

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Like what if our bodies are like hello, this is what's going on, do the thing right now, fire ready, hey, go, go, go.

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And like what if, like, our egos are like twos?

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Well, now be a little more gentle, yeah that's interesting.

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And then what if our like brains are sixes?

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Do not do that, that will not go well.

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You cannot do that.

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Be very, very afraid.

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And what if, like our ear lobes were fives and going to you feel the breeze of the air?

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And do you know what that means?

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And calculated with the Spiral dynamics of the Fibonacci spiral, you know I mean.

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Maybe our, our souls or our hearts are fours where they're just like let's feel it all.

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Let's just get in there and feel around and touch it all.

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That was a one-to-one or a sexual enneagram for, or just like, or just a Scorpio like cat.

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Yeah, or or is it just like the heart and the genitals are the same depending on the gender?

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I don't know my gosh.

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No, the genitals have to be like enneagram three.

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You know.

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Like, need more need more.

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Wow, yeah, where are you?

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Here's what I've got.

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You know, I used to tell people my real name.

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If you don't know it, it's not moose, I'm sorry to say.

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My real name is Andrea and I used to tell people in my 20s and you may remember, this cat.

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I had no idea how Shocking this might be in the Christian music industry, but people would say how do you pronounce your name?

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And I would say On, and I would spell it phonetically dre, and then you age for uh, and then I would put parentheses With a hip thrust mm-hmm.

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Andre oh yeah, Andrea.

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Yeah, yeah and which you don't have to say it that way, it was just for fun, and I remember so many people just being like, wow, that was more than I expected.

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And then look at you.

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You practically run the whole industry, so I mean, like you did something right ran it to the ground.

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With my hip thrust, my god.

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I gotta say to our listeners I'm disappointed in you.

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Like you guys are Fantastic at calling in writing, in emailing, texting, in leaving voice messages, I Mean a top five highlight.

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For me is cat crab crawling into this hot spring.

00:24:51.595 --> 00:24:56.295
I still need you to draw a picture of it for a t-shirt cat, even if I'm the only one that wears.

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I've been working on it.

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I've actually been working on it.

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Yeah great, I wonder.

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Wait to see it.

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I can't either, but I still am reliving that in my mind and chuckling.

00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:07.394
I made Julie like retell it.

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And when we were at your party and she was as appreciative as I was and I was like, I asked her if she turned around and looked at you and she said she didn't.

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And Julie was like well, I hope not.

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We all gotta keep our own stuff to ourselves.

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It really is.

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It's kind of like it takes one back to that like ultimate sense of survival.

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It's like actually I'm not looking at what's around me anymore, I'm trying to stay alive.

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Yeah, like I'm just trying to stay alive and so I'm not gonna be like ooh, what's that over there?

00:25:40.339 --> 00:25:41.523
Or whoa, what's that.

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Break a hip?

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Yeah, I'm not not die at the Hot springs the only hot springs I've ever been in was in blue lagoon in Iceland, which is not a bad one.

00:25:52.275 --> 00:25:55.503
It's probably one of the most beautiful places in the world and it's closed.

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Yeah, because of all the volcanoes.

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Well, I mean, that's one of the topics I had to bring up this week.

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You guys know that we have a friendly Viking friend that has called into the podcast several times and who is from Iceland and yeah, and who has family in Iceland and Her family is so cool that they have.

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They live near Grindavik, which is one of the towns that's along like kind of the major fault line that all these earthquakes are Threatening and they have like taken people in, like they've taken people in and in all of that, and I Feel like like I have never had anything but a wonderful experience With anything that has to do with Iceland.

00:26:44.862 --> 00:26:49.592
The people the stories about it, where it's located on the map.

00:26:49.592 --> 00:26:52.157
Like everything about it is Beautiful to me.

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Why in the world are they being plagued by all these earthquakes and potential volcanic eruptions?

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Well, I think they are on a volcano.

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By the way, a few seconds ago I said by all these volcanoes, I think there's only one that's erupting.

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To be clear, definitely not a news source here at the cat and moose podcast.

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But, cat, I'm with you because Truly breathtaking.

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I've talked about it probably a year ago, but Skogafoss waterfall to me is one the most sacred places I've ever been.

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It was the waterfall I talked about, like running towards yeah, and it and I was.

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I've been to Iceland twice, but the time that I was there most recent it was like seven days and it was truly like Unbelievable.

00:27:38.679 --> 00:27:40.694
That place is so special, you know.

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Mm-hmm.

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So we just want to give a shout out to all Icelandic peoples those who are native to the region, those who are there, those who have lived there in the past and gone on to other dimensions, and for all of our friends who have any sensitivities or love or caring or concern or good vibes or prayers to offer the people of Iceland.

00:28:06.096 --> 00:28:13.462
We want to put that out there and as of the time of this recording, they're still bracing for the volcanic activity.

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But I mean, if you Google it, y'all there are like the roads are literally splitting apart.

00:28:19.761 --> 00:28:21.526
So yeah, and I know.

00:28:21.586 --> 00:28:32.537
Grinovic, which you said, cat, it's 43 miles from Recovic, which is like the main capital city that you fly into, mm-hmm, and they've not been issued evacuation.

00:28:32.537 --> 00:28:37.643
But, yes, definitely praying and thinking of all of our Icelandic friends, kat.

00:28:37.643 --> 00:28:39.690
What else do you have on your list you want to talk about?

00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:48.825
Well, I wanted to see if there were any tasks in your life that feel like Sisyphian tasks.

00:28:50.164 --> 00:28:56.059
Oh yeah, this is where you sneak in a word, and I heard snuffalophagus.

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What did?

00:28:56.801 --> 00:28:57.163
you hear.

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Sarah.

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Sisyphan.

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Sniphian, phesetian, sisyphan.

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What is a Sisyphan task?

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Okay, so I was reading a devotional the other day because I'm super pious and holy and all that kind of stuff, and so anyway, I was reading this devotional that I bought at a New York bookstore I was actually with the two of you and it's called 365 Tao, and so it's like a 365 day devotional of Taoist ways of being or whatever.

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A lot of stuff from the Tao Dei Qing and the Yi Qing and all the things.

00:29:36.589 --> 00:29:47.306
And so anyway, it said, release yourself from all your Sisyphian tasks and move on to what you are called to do.

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And of course I was like what's that?

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Because I'm like what's a Sisyphian task?

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And so I went down.

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I've got a couple of rabbit holes I want to go down here, the first one being Sisyphus is a Greek character, like a Greek mythology character, and Sisyphus was the king of what is now known as Corinth, so think of like second letter to the Corinthians.

00:30:15.608 --> 00:30:17.224
Okay, hold on.

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I can't help but hear syphilis.

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What is it again?

00:30:22.151 --> 00:30:22.271
It's.

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You almost said syphilis.

00:30:25.712 --> 00:30:27.619
It's Sisyphus.

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Okay, I'm not going to be able to get it.

00:30:30.087 --> 00:30:33.642
It's a Sisyphian task, okay, anyway.

00:30:33.642 --> 00:30:55.589
So this dude was the king of Corinth and he was like a really, really clever snarly, not necessarily maybe having the most like utmost moral standards, because like he pissed off Zeus, who was like the main Greek god, and he pissed off Hades, pretty much like the devil, the god of hell.

00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.429
The guy chaining Hades up in his own hell.

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So like this guy.

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This guy is like really really smart and so anyway, and really really bad too, and so anyway, zeus basically put a curse on him, where what happens is he has to push this boulder up a hill and ride is the boulder, the big boulder, gets to the top of the hill, the boulder falls off of the hill and falls back down to the bottom and he has to push it up again.

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I studied this guy in 10th grade mythology.

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I recognize it now.

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And so basically, like his curse that he was given is the incompletable task, the thing that can never be satisfied, that can never be achieved.

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And so I'm just curious about like, well, let me, let me go a little bit further here is that the reason Zeus put this like curse on him is he betrayed one of Zeus's secrets, and Zeus knew the secret about the whereabouts of two sisters, one who was an island nymph what's a nymph?

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Does it have to do with sex?

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Isn't nymph like if you are sex?

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worker?

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Are you a sex worker If you're a nymphomaniac?

00:32:19.884 --> 00:32:22.087
Oh, you like a lot of sex, Okay got it.

00:32:22.632 --> 00:32:23.619
So Zeus had a secret.

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He's like hey, I know some sisters.

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One of them is an island nymph and he didn't want the whole world to know about it.

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And Dan syphilis He'll never be called the right name again.

00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:39.443
Right, you know, he revealed Zeus's secret, so Zeus gave him this whole like.

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You know, you're gonna push a boulder up a hill for forever and ever, and so I just wanted to ask you guys, like is there something in your life or are there things in your life that you would categorize as a Sisyphian task, a Sisyphian thing on your to do list that just can't actually?

00:32:58.586 --> 00:33:01.251
do laundry to be completed dishes.

00:33:01.251 --> 00:33:13.269
You know, laundry is an interesting one, because I heard Mel Robbins talking about laundry the other day and she said we think it's either done or it's not, but it's always a cycle.

00:33:13.269 --> 00:33:19.653
So we need to let done not be just all that we're looking for, because it's never done.

00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:20.943
But I hear you on Monday.

00:33:20.963 --> 00:33:25.609
Yeah, I think mine always has to do with taxes.

00:33:25.609 --> 00:33:36.729
I always feel behind, not just in paying them but in, like you know, categorizing stuff and making sure of the right write offs and like it.

00:33:36.729 --> 00:33:39.988
I never feel like I've got that under control.

00:33:39.988 --> 00:33:42.083
What about you, Kat?

00:33:42.805 --> 00:33:43.386
Losing weight.

00:33:43.386 --> 00:33:47.029
Well, I was going to say that, but is that a task?

00:33:47.029 --> 00:33:53.883
Well, I mean, it's a thing that I feel like I'm always trying to tackle and never getting it right.

00:33:53.883 --> 00:33:56.920
You know, it's like impossible to complete.

00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:12.940
Oh, I would agree, and it's not impossible, but it's like it makes me go like, if I put myself in the metaphor of Sisyphus, am I being punished by being fat because I've been so bad in some other area of life?

00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:15.027
Like I don't think it's how it works.

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I think we're here to learn something.

00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.632
I think we're a bunch of judgmental motherfuckers and we need to learn what it's like to not be that way.

00:34:23.632 --> 00:34:28.827
I've been thinking about it a lot, kat, like, honestly, I I mean, it's mine too.

00:34:28.827 --> 00:34:41.001
It's mine too, like, and you know, I got to be honest, it's really hard to see people lose 50 pounds on thousand dollar a month medication that I can't afford, right, and I would.

00:34:41.001 --> 00:34:43.489
I would buy it off the street if I could.

00:34:43.489 --> 00:34:52.590
But like, I see people like dropping weight like that and going like oh my God, and in like cheers, like I would do that if I could afford that.

00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:54.085
Honestly, I probably would.

00:34:54.085 --> 00:35:04.235
And yet I have to ask myself every day because weight is such a obstacle for me in a lot of different ways.

00:35:04.235 --> 00:35:08.210
I have to ask myself all the time like, what am I here to learn?

00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:17.429
Because I can guarantee you when you lose the weight I mean, just like that song we played last week it doesn't go away just because you're skinny, whatever it is you're working with.

00:35:17.751 --> 00:35:21.809
Yeah, you still remember Jason at age 11 saying that you were the fat girl.

00:35:21.809 --> 00:35:24.217
Yeah, I loved that song.

00:35:24.217 --> 00:35:24.719
I do.

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But you know, I think honestly I'm trying to process like what am I here to learn around that?

00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:48.954
And when I say we're a bunch of judgmental people, I think it is very important to to ask the question like okay, what am I wanting from a different body?

00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.019
Yeah, and, and what can you answer that Like?

00:35:53.019 --> 00:35:54.961
What is that For me?

00:35:55.182 --> 00:35:56.065
I would say freedom.

00:35:56.065 --> 00:35:58.487
I would say freedom and confidence.

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Like I do have this idea in my head which I know is not true that if I just was this specific weight, everything gets better.

00:36:06.387 --> 00:36:14.527
And that means outwardly and inwardly right, and that's not true Like I, it just isn't true.

00:36:14.527 --> 00:36:19.027
Like I do think some things get better, I think my confidence probably gets better.

00:36:19.027 --> 00:36:32.677
But I also think that whatever I am, whatever my body is protecting and my choices that I choose to make to keep my body in the shape, it is whether that is positive.

00:36:32.677 --> 00:36:37.664
Walking or eating, something bad like those are all a part of the conversation.

00:36:37.664 --> 00:36:46.003
And I don't think until we're ready to have that conversation on a deep way that our bodies change.

00:36:46.715 --> 00:36:57.519
And I also think, too, like trying to have that conversation is like saying to someone who has been through some sort of really traumatic event hey, would you like to talk about that?

00:36:58.161 --> 00:36:58.704
Oh, totally.

00:36:58.855 --> 00:37:02.884
That's not how you get there, like it's not how you do it as you go.

00:37:02.884 --> 00:37:05.724
So you're fat because you're trying to protect something.

00:37:05.724 --> 00:37:07.922
So what's going on in there that needs protecting?

00:37:07.922 --> 00:37:10.000
Like that's not.

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.206
It's not an easy thing.

00:37:14.014 --> 00:37:16.940
Gosh, if it were that simple, right, Things would already be different.

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I mean, I think the harder part about having extra weight on is simply like you can't hide it right.

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Like it's there.

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And I immediately feel vulnerable because of it, because I'm immediately judged good or bad, whatever, whatever, there are judgments that happen and so when I said that earlier about we're judgmental motherfuckers, I'm like, okay, what is it in my own life that I am judging?

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It's usually yourself.

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It's like, oh well, I have opinions about what I look like, that if I can't change that about myself, I'll never be able to change it outwardly.

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Yeah Well, and for me, like I had a client say to me earlier this year, earlier this year I went through a really lovely season of losing quite a bit of weight.

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Like I was exercising, I was walking, I was doing my pal Dan gum every day, faithfully, and like all the things I was even going to like a yoga class and all this kind of stuff.

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And I remember a client saying to me.

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They said to me you know, I can really tell that you're finally taking care of yourself.

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Oh man, they were fighting words, Kat.

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And I just was like are you kidding me?

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I've been taking care of myself this whole time Exactly come on, Absolutely you gotta get that anger out, Kat, because that's fucked up.

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Yeah, it's like, just like, just because I went for a walk and I look a little better, you can tell that I'm taking care of myself.

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Like, oh my gosh, it's like.

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No, that's not like I'm trying to take care of myself every minute of every day, exactly exactly and like we're all on journeys and here's the reality.

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Like it's so funny In one of my classes right now where I'm studying diversity and discrimination and all the things, and it's very well known in those worlds that overweight people make about 20% to 30% less than someone who has average weight in a job, wow Just because of their weight, because people make assumptions about laziness and assumptions about that you're gonna have more medical issues at a job because you're overweight and anyway.

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All that to say like it's unbelievable to me that we have and we do have discrimination laws in there around weight.

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Let me say that.

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But it is so common, it is so so common for people to make assumptions about women especially, but also men and their weight.

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And it's so unfair because you have no idea what people are dealing with.

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You have no idea the mental struggle that they're walking through because of that or in spite of that you know, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

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And I love big girls.

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Come on, where are my big girls at?

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I'm here.

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Yay, and I have noticed.

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I was watching TV last night.

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A football game was on and I was watching the commercials in between, and I was watching with a friend and we were reflecting on how, in the commercials, the people that were being depicted like as the characters in the commercials, like they were less than quote, unquote, like media perfect, it's like they were larger, they were less attractive and we were talking about how much we appreciated feeling so like, oh, that's one of us Like that makes you want to go buy that medicine or go buy that.

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You know I forget what she was selling, so maybe it's terrible marketing, but you know, I think it was like car insurance or something like that and it's like I don't know.

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Just to me, it's like I want to be the kind of person that looks beyond that kind of stuff when I'm making important decisions and so, yeah, yeah, so my circadian task is losing weight and why I want to do it and all of that.

00:41:34.414 --> 00:41:57.554
And another rant I would like to have one of you go on is people keep redoing movies, kind of like people are covering songs on TikTok and YouTube, right, it's like why does Adele or why does you know, bruce Springsteen or whoever it is, need one of their songs redone?

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Well, because that, you know, it inspires you and you're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And one of the things that really frustrates me is the lack of original content.

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Coming out of the movie world and after reading about Sisyphus or Mr Siphalus, right, and just what his life was like, like there is so much rich content in the ancient scrolls, if you will like, in Greek mythology, in biblical history, in Chinese I mean history of everything.

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Iceland included that like why aren't we making more art about that.

00:42:39.815 --> 00:42:41.461
Well, that's why I love documentaries.

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I am in love with people's stories.

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I think there are so many untold stories out in the world.

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I think it probably comes down to oh well, this is proven, so we don't want to waste money on something over there when this sort of thing people will actually come see.

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Well, like.

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Greek mythology is proven.

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Like we still subscribe to so many of the beliefs, so much so that my devotional said let go of your Sisyphian tasks.

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It's like well, that meant something to that author, you know, and it's like to me.

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Here's what we need to do.

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As the Cat and Moose podcast is, I want to dress up as a Greek god or goddess and I would like, Moose, for you to film a documentary about my life.

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I'll just do it.

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Yeah, wait, are you?

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Is it going to be your life or the?

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Whoever you dress up as, whoever I dress up, as kind of like the medicine woman, like I might start.

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as the you know, I'm sure there's a Greek goddess that was a medicine woman Like I'll be her.

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We could do one a month if you want.

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Yeah, Medusa.

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Yeah, I would love to Ursula.

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I have something I want to share about the river, speaking of mythology, like the river that has the river beneath the river.

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Yeah, the river that we are on, that is our journey that we always talk about.

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Yep, yep, talk to me about the river.

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Very beautiful, kind listener we call her Tori, from Maine, and she is always sending me just quotes and books and poetry and all the things that I love.

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And she said you guys always talk about the river on the podcast.

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So I wanted to share this Margaret Atwood quote that I've always loved.

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So I want to share it with you guys.

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Water does not resist Water flows.

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When you plunge your hand into it, all you feel is a caress.

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Water is not a solid wall.

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It will not stop you, but water always goes where it wants to go and nothing in the end can stand against it.

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Water is patient.

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Dripping water wears away a stone.

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Remember that, my child.

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Remember you are half water.

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If you can't go through an obstacle, go around it.

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Water does.

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Oh God, that is amazing.

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That's so beautiful, I know, I know I'm going to text it to you guys so you can have it in front of you.

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Oh my gosh, that is so wonderful.

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Thank you so much, tori, and thank you so much, moose, for sharing it.

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Of course.

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What about me, Sarah?

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Do you have something you'd like to share?

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No, I just wanted to thank you.

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Sarah, thank you so much for being our producer.

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Adorable, I love you guys, I love you so much.

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Thank you for being one.

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We are so glad to be back you guys.

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We have missed you.

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Thank you for putting up with our absenteeism of life.

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Abstinence.

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And I would also like to say and celebrate with the three of you and if our listeners want to hang out and listen to this last little rant that I'm going to go on, oh please.

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We have been doing the Cat and Moose podcast since early way before COVID 2020.

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Yes, we did and we are about to enter into 2024 here in less than a couple months, and Mercury is going to be in retrograde during that time, so that's fine, oh Lord.

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Protect your email addresses and I think it's pretty awesome that we have been so solidly committed and consistent for about four years, With the exception of a couple of major things family members dying Sure.

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Yeah, there's that.

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Like having bones or teeth extracted from a face, face ghosts, like other than that, we've been really consistent and I would like to just give us an A plus thumbs up.

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Come on, give us some snaps.

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People Snaps, snaps, snaps, snaps, snaps.

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I honestly, even when I don't feel like doing anything and it's been a hard day, it's always wonderful to get on with the two of you and just talk through what's going on in our heads.

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And I had no idea Syphilis was coming this week, but I'm glad he did Neither.

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You know, I really am.

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I feel like him pushing that boulder.

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I get it, yeah, I get it.

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Yeah, everyone be aware of your Caesarean ways.

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Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Wee.

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To find out more, go to catandmusepodcastcom.

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