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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose, this is the True Life podcast, where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Okay, Well, happy new year, Moose.
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Hey Kat, happy new year, holy shit.
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Happy new year and holy shit, yes, yeah man.
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So.
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So a friend of mine went to see her family for the Christmas holidays and asked me if I had any Xanax that she could borrow.
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Just borrow.
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Like she's going to give it back, just borrow, like just in case I need it, type thing.
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And so I put a few of them in, a little like medicines and black baggy thing that I have, and I just wrote holy shit on the outside and I said, if you feel this way at all in your body while you're gone, please utilize this disease.
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And we have laughed about it so many times, about how it's like things just feel like holy shit.
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So is that legal, kat?
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Oh it, completely not.
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I'm sure I've just lost every license and credential that I have.
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Could we unedit all of that, sarah?
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No, no.
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Also, I see that as sort of like subletting your apartment you know what I mean Like I have to admit that there have been times where I haven't gotten my life.
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I've been sexapro filled and I may have dabbled in Sarah's so, but we don't condone this, guys.
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We're not encouraging you to bring pills to a party and put them in a hat and choose them.
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We're not, do we're not encouraging that?
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Nope, not at all.
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I didn't know you had Xanax to share.
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Can I borrow one?
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Give out your number for anyone that needs it, even after the holidays ią.
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No.
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I love you guys.
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I'm gonna pay $6.
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That's me to get one.
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We got paid aJAITI Sounds �er, it's like six tomatoes and it's going to be our family business.
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So take that job.
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Let me tell you also there are videos down there, are they not?
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Yeah, I do have anything to publish, so I just, if you're sort of in, yeah, the freaking.
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I love that you're laughing about it.
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Is that kind of one of those like I'm going to laugh, or?
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else I'll cry yeah in spite of yes.
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I mean, I got on here.
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I was like I feel like I need some drugs.
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Yeah, I don't have the juice.
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Hang on.
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I got to open my window because I'm having a hot flush talking about that.
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Oh yeah, that's a topic, actually that one of our friends and listeners has asked us to tackle right now or in the future is the topic of menopause.
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Oh yeah, so pre and Perry and Post and all the things.
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Yeah, yeah, and so that was a really great segue, moose, thank you.
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You're welcome.
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Yeah, our friend Jen Rodin, jen DePauloff, from the great state of Minnesota now wrote in and encouraged us to talk about Perry, menopause and all the weird shit that happens to our body as our we start shutting down before death.
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Yeah, or for death in order to die.
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In order to die.
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Yeah, this is our body's preparation for death, it's our burial preparation.
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Yes, no wonder nobody tells us about it.
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Like that's the biggest thing I want to say about this.
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You know, midlife crisis and, oh my gosh, and the forties and midlife and everything, and I feel like nobody older than me has sat me down and said cat, there is impending doom that is going to come upon you Upon and it is going to mess with every system of your body.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's about all I want to say about it.
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Jen, you want to hear our thoughts.
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Let me tell you about it.
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It's awful.
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Please do.
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Also well, and I think it is worth talking about, and there's lots of information out there that you have to sift through.
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But it is a whole thing, including mood and weight changes and sleep problems and all those things.
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But on top of that, you know God forbid that you have bleeding insides and you have to have all of your insides removed and then you're just straight in menopause, like the child that you, my inner child that you always describe, where she's just crying and bleeding from the eyes.
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Yeah, I think she's inside of me bleeding.
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And so, therefore, they're like oh, you don't have any blood left.
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You're just bone dry in there and I was like, oh well, what do we do?
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And they're like take it all out, and then you just have menopause, which is the worst thing that's ever happened to me, Just short of the hacking incident.
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Well, and I would like to say, just short of hacking and just short of menopause, one of the traumas that a person can endure in life is when someone defines for them what their inner child looks like.
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Oh yeah, that is trauma in itself, god Right, and I think that we need professional help to undo that.
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Well, no, I don't, I don't.
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I feel like you know me well enough to know what she looks like.
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I actually let me check in.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right on that one.
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She's like this goth little eight year old that's like has one of those switchblade combs.
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You know what I mean.
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Like isn't allowed to really have a knife yet, but yeah, she's bleeding from the eyes.
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I was at this.
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I was at this I almost said I was at this house last night, but I was at this house with new friends, which is shocking in itself that I love the house, but with some new friends that we've met and I don't know what I was gonna tell you about that.
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What was I gonna tell you?
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Not?
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sure how do you make new friends?
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Yeah, good question.
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We were talking about different enneagram types.
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I don't know.
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I only made these friends through my one other friend besides you, so I don't have an answer for that, However.
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So we were talking about enneagram types and I was trying to explain it in enneagram eight and I talked about my own hypervigilance and I just, you know new friends you forget, Like maybe you should let them lean into your dark humor a little bit before you just drop it.
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I was like yeah, I was like explaining it and you know, as an enneagram eight, everything's a bullet point.
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There's never like a long answer.
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So I think my answer was yeah, I have a lot of hypervigilance.
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I had a super chaotic childhood so I don't remember much.
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So you know, I'm just looking for everything that comes around the corner to attack me, and they were all like, oh, that's interesting.
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And then I was like this is why I don't go out.
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And is that all they said?
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They just said, it's that's interesting.
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No, no, no, they were kind and wanted to know more.
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And then I just threw out words like schizophrenic brother, and you know I don't want to go into it.
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I just.
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It's like deflections, like pow, pow, pow.
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You know, like connection for me, I have a shield for connection.
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It's like, oh, you're trying to connect with me, oh, I just I just got it away.
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So you know, I just ran from connection.
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Isn't that how you make friends?
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It sounds like.
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How's that going for you, moose?
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I mean, they didn't kick me out, so I felt like it was strong.
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That's fantastic.
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That's great.
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I'm excited for your new friends to have you as a friend, like lucky them.
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That's awesome, I know, I agree.
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So back to Perimenopause Just for a moment.
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If you're a guy, definitely keep listening, because you need to learn what we go through.
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I feel like that should be part of your penance, all right, so Perimenopause.
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You've got hot flashes and night sweats, you have vaginal dryness, you have uterine bleeding problems, you have sleep disturbances, mood symptoms and other problems.
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I would like to say that I only have a couple of those.
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Oh, that's good.
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Which do you have the uterine bleeding?
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Or the vaginal dryness.
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Or the vaginal dryness.
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No, just like the mood stuff, the mood stuff in the body feeling weird, yeah, Like.
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I saw someone post on Facebook the other day something along the lines of like I have now entered into that phase in life that no one told me about, called Perimenopause, where everything feels like I'm going to die.
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Oh, yeah, and that's the thing that I'm like.
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Why do our elders not educate us better about this?
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Because it's like you are going to think you need to go to the hospital or call an ambulance.
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And it's.
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OK, you actually don't.
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Actually I do.
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I do.
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I really do in my own way.
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I'm like you better just check everything real quick.
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Do you have an EKG on board?
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Because that's what I need.
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I mean, it does feel like that.
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It does.
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Yeah, okay, so let's break down your questions.
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First question why hasn't anyone told us Because I think we're the first generation to go what the fuck is going on with my body.
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Yeah, exactly, and that's so sad.
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Think about it.
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Our moms had so many other issues.
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They were just like trudging through and not their issues.
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Just like concerns is what I mean.
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So I feel like we're the first generation to go like can I and maybe social media helps can I raise my hand and ask what the hell here is going on?
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I apologize for all the cussing.
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I blame it on the hacker.
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By the way, I'm not normally a cusser, but yes, it feels like you have a full mood disorder.
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I said to my therapist the other day.
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I said I realized you're a therapist and not a psychiatrist, and that's always a way to really get them to lean in.
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You know what I mean.
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Yeah, y'all's gonna say how did that go?
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Let me tell you the credentials.
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You don't have to help me.
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No, I guess my point was I followed it up with do you think I have a mood disorder?
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Am I bipolar?
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Because it feels that way.
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It feels like you're going mad.
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What did she say?
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No, she didn't think I did, which is great news.
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It is good news.
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But also kind of boring, because I love investigating myself so I like a label to smack on it so I can go read and be like, yes, I have that symptom and yes, See, here's the thing is.
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I have read a ton about it and nothing has felt helpful to me.
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Like the information, all the symptoms you just listed.
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It's like how does that help me when I, literally in my body, feel like I'm about to lose touch with life itself?
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Yeah, like, how does?
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Like I'm not worried about the level of moisture in my downtown area at that moment oh my gosh, you know, like, that's not what I'm focused on, like I am in, like are we going to live or die mode?
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And it's like a really, really terrible way to feel.
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Well, I can tell you, like all these I don't know if you've seen this Instagram thing, but all these like female celebrities I think June Barry Moore is one of them got together and created this company specifically focused on Perry Menopause.
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Really, yeah, I forget the name of it, but we can look it up and find out what that is.
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It's called Ever Now.
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Ever Now is the name of that company, and then I saw Oprah did an entire series on Perry Menopause and all of that.
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The interesting part is I find that it's a lot of this is what happens, but I don't I'm with you.
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I don't find a lot of here's what to do about it.
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Yeah.
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It's like oh, you feel like you're dying.
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Oh, my God, do you want to call an ambulance?
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You are, like I said the other day, I'm like lonely one moment and the next moment like get away from me, I just want to be alone.
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And then, like three seconds later, I'm like where did everyone go?
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And they're like dead on the ground.
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But they're yeah, but yeah, I'm with you.
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What do we do?
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Yeah, what do we do?
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Like I went to this website over the holidays and I found that there's a place here in Nashville that specifically deals with menopause Perry Menopause, like all of this and they were like, send us a note, we'll be back in touch with you.
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And so I sent them a note and I was like, hey, here is my entire life story as it relates to my female reproductive system and what is going on with me.
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Can you help me?
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And nothing, nothing, nothing.
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They haven't written back.
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Really, they haven't even written back.
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And so I'm like, man, it's just really hard now to know that there are people out there who have created an entire organization around this subject and I just didn't know it.
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And I'm like I want to apologize and say thank you to our predecessors and our friends older than us for creating something to potentially help us with this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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In my, in my what's the word Experience, in my experience, but also in my investigation, I, via Google, I learned what the recommended amount of drinking, the amount of alcohol per day is recommended.
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Oh, okay, you guys like to know that yeah.
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I would love to know but yeah.
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Okay, I mean, I'd like to know if, if, if I can increase.
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Yeah right, I'm not sure about that, but moderate alcohol use for healthy adults generally means up to one drink per day for women and up to two drinks per day for men.
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That just pisses me off.
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Yeah, you know what that's patriarchal information.
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It's patriarchal information from the Mayo Clinic.
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So that means one beer 12 fluid ounces is all you should be drinking at most per day, or one glass of wine, five fluid ounces, if you would like distilled spirits otherwise known as liquor.
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That would be 1.5, which is about a shot and a half.
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So yeah, for those of you who are deciding to have a dry January, cheers and those who aren't sorry to give you that news.
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Well, jen, just to answer your question, we also have no help to offer you whatsoever and we can just commiserate about it.
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And I think we will continue to commiserate about it.
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For me, when, when I get that feeling in my body of like the hot flashes coming on, it feels to me like a bit of a.
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It's almost like a spiritual experience.
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It's like kind of a tingly, like oh, is this going to feel like really nice in my toes and my legs and my arms and all of that.
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And then I'm like oh, no, it's that.
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And then comes like the subsonic, supersonic wave of dread that feels like this is a heart attack or a stroke or something Like I'm dying right now.
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Yes, like right now death is impending and and I'm just sorry, Jen, and all of our other friends out there that might be going through this it is a really, really challenging way for the body to feel, and I bet that in all of our studies, of all the things that we've all been studying, we can probably find some ways to support each other during para and menopause.
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So I'm going to make this a continuing ongoing conversation and study.
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Did I tell you that my doctor um, he was talking about hormone therapy and all of that.
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And, for those who don't know, you get tested and then they give you a little estrogen, a little bit of testosterone.
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But my, my doctor said the following statement, and I don't want to be held accountable for this.
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If anyone that um is shocked by this, this is a quote from my doctor.
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I said how does that testosterone work, may I ask?
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And she said yeah, it comes in a little tube.
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You can click one, two or three on how much you want to actually put on your body.
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And it's like a lotion.
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Okay, so I'm guessing, since it's testosterone, I should probably just click one.
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And she said, yeah, I would start with one.
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I said okay, and she said I will warn you, if you do multiple three clicks, your clitoris will enlarge and you will grow hair all over your body.
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And I just sat there looking at her like I was stuck on the first part of it and just staring and going like, oh, wow, what is that Like?
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How big, how big is it going to get?
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How big are we talking here?
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You know I wanted to Google it, but I also didn't want that in my Google.
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Right, I didn't, but now that you've been hacked, maybe you should, maybe I should at this point.
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So anyway, just a little tidbit.
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If anyone wants to increase their size, testosterone is the way.
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Thank you, thank you.
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This leads me to we are medical podcast.
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Yes, yes, we are.
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This leads me to a quote from Napoleon dynamite, or actual Napoleon, actual Napoleon.
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He said never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
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Oh, amen to that.
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What was the stake?
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Well, I'm saying like if you click three times, oh yeah, and you know, I mean that may or may not be a mistake.
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I don't know, and you're not my enemy.
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So it really is a terrible segue in transition that I just made, but I was trying.
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Well, you were trying, and it doesn't matter where you're going to go, because I'm going to keep us right here.
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Here's my thing about warnings like that I think they should put.
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You know, you know how all the prescription ones on the commercials would be like and the following side effects could happen You're going to die, you are going to have a rash in between your legs, like I feel like that they should.
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I feel like they should put that warning that she shared with me on that testosterone compound.
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Yeah, and just say, like you know, like they do in the UK with cigarettes, you know it has like a child and their lungs and it's like if you smoke this, you're killing everyone and you're like I don't smoke these.
