Porcelain Dolls and Handmade Tales

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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.

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I'm Cat.

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And I'm Moose.

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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.

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One, two, three, jesus Hi hey, cat Hi Moose, hey, sarah, hi Hi Hi.

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Welcome, okay, we're doing this.

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We're a video podcast.

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Yes, we're a video podcast and I'm not going to look at the video because then that shows everybody my least favorable angle.

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I don't think there is one of those we are here to welcome ourselves.

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That's right All parts of our body.

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Yes, I have not shaved my legs, so so you're lucky patrons.

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you get to see that part and neither has sarah, and she's not mad about my gosh, what's happening with your?

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I haven't shaved my legs and it's it's probably almost two weeks.

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It's bad.

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Why is it bad?

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Wait, who makes it bad?

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I mean it just in the in as far as terms of length of hair on legs, as opposed to normal typical length of hair on legs.

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Okay, it's bad, normal.

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But what makes it bad?

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What's wrong with your hair growing?

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That's not bad.

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Well, remember that time you grew out your pit hair.

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I did.

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I tried it for the first time in my life.

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I grew it out grown out your pit hair.

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I did, I tried it for the first time in my life.

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I grew it out, grown out my pit hair, and I think it lasted maybe, maybe would you say like seven or eight weeks.

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Why are you looking at me?

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I didn't mark it down Like oh week six.

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Show it to me, and then we like took pictures.

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I looked every day.

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It was really exciting the first week or so.

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Why the first week?

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Well, just because it was growing.

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It's like growing a plant.

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Look what I did.

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Why are your leg hairs bad, though?

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Because you're so proud of your pit hairs.

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It just, it's the in-between, it's the in-between, it's the in-between phase.

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Do you still have long pit hairs?

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It's maybe a couple days old.

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Oh, so you.

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Okay, I did end up getting rid of those because it was rough.

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It was rough for me.

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Yeah, you said that ultimately it didn't work for you, and I've noticed I have a handful of people in my life women, people who identify as female who just grow out their pit hair or either just don't take time to shave it or whatever and we talked about this on the podcast months ago.

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All the time.

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I don't know why.

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That feels strange to me.

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Well, because it's a societal norm.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I mean it's a societal norm.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I mean it's the whole thing.

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That's why I want to say to you I would like for you to have a conversation with your leg hairs that they are not bad.

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Imagine being your leg hair.

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Yeah, they don't want to be called bad.

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Here's the thing I had a conversation with someone recently where I just had this big uh perspective shift and trying to understand how men grow facial hair all over their face most men, all over their face.

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Every day it comes out thick and strong and mighty and mighty.

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They can't just have this skin like we have.

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Well, I've got the same thing around my mustache and my chin.

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I do have a good little small beard going here.

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Patchy is patchy.

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I have a.

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There's a guy that's in my improv class who says he cannot grow facial hair.

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I've heard some guys yeah, so.

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I've heard some guys say that too, that it's not always like super easy Available.

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Maybe we could do an implant from the legs to the lip, not for us but for those who can't.

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No for those who can't.

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So I can say to my friend I have a donor for you.

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Yes, Producer Sarah is willing to donate.

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I didn't say that you just called her a whore.

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I listened to last week's podcast and I was like we went off the rail we were off.

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Definitely it was literally, like someone said here, take these pills and go into a room and hit record.

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It did feel like that, like when I was listening back I was like we sound like we're on drugs, like it, and I had so much fun.

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It was a blast.

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Doing the drugs?

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No, no, no, no, we didn't do any.

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No, I had so much fun listening back and I think that I listened back to last week's episode three times.

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Oh, wow, and I don't really liked it.

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No, it's not even that I liked it.

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It's like I wanted to.

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I wanted to experience it like in different moments, because I really did feel like I was operating kind of on a different plane or something Like we all were it was fun.

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It was, it was fun.

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I feel bad for listeners.

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I do too, because I don't think it made any sense like we were just like getting used to sitting in our new chairs and we were together.

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We haven't been together in a minute to record.

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Yeah, we really haven't so we should tell our listeners who aren't watching, yes, the video.

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So we are now um recording together, live and in person, like we started in february of 2020.

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Yep, and we are now recording together, live and in person, like we started in February of 2020.

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Yep, and we are in the animal den.

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Oh yeah, we had a friend and listener of ours.

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Suggest that we call it the animal den.

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Oh, that's right, you are cat and you are moose and you are Sarah the animal and you are Sarah the animal.

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Rawr, that was good the same friend really kind of a little bit kind of went on a rant about the worship leader, ipad and musicians looking at lyrics for shows and stuff like that, and I think that, first of of all, I would like to apologize for seem so, seeming so disrespectful to people that need to do that if you've got to memorize like 90 songs yeah, that's what she was saying, right, and?

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It's like that to me is not who I was thinking of.

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I was thinking you were so mad about the artist that had written a song and had to have it on their iPad.

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Yes, I was mad about the fact that it's like, okay, you have like seven songs to sing, yeah, and you do it every night, 120 nights a year, like I don't, that's hard for me.

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And then in my statement about that I indicted myself oh, you did.

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And I said I have, as an artist, quote, unquote right podcast person.

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I have.

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I have notes too and yours are written on paper.

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Yeah, I mean it's adorable a little image, a little walking tree, yeah yeah, so I I indicted myself too, so I I don't know.

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I'm really sorry well, you're fine and our friend loves us.

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Still, she was simply saying as a musician, yeah, who plays three hour gigs she's gotta have all of her songs.

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Yes, I want to like give you all kinds of support around that and if you couldn't listen to us screaming you stupid whore to one another over and over last episode and turned it off.

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You may not know what the worship leader iPad is, but it's simply I have it in front of me now that we're in a recording video space and that's how I look at my notes, and so that's what we're referring to.

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So as far as our space, can you talk a little bit about the stuff that that is representative?

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of moose okay, so let's see if I can do this backwards.

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So this, if you're watching the video, um, this right here is a lisa congan art piece.

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Uh, one of my favorite graphic creators and artists.

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It says protect the vulnerable I love that.

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That's one of my favorites.

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This is also one of hers and, uh, I have some boxing gloves behind me.

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Yeah, if you know me, I have a company that has to do with boxing and that is important.

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I got a cat and moose logo.

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I got us behind my shoulder.

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I got bonnie keeping an eye, my mom behind me.

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What's up?

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Can you, can you give my moose a little tap?

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Yeah.

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Oh wow, Give me a tap.

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Okay, see his little head.

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And then I have our fantastic award.

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Behind us, the green jar.

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If you know, you know.

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Yeah, if you know.

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You know, don't feel like going into that.

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Yeah, me either, and Alicia, and I know Exactly.

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Okay and yeah, if you know you don't feel like going into that, yeah Me either, and Alicia and I know Exactly.

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Okay, and behind you, kat, can you give?

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Yeah?

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So I've got, um, I've got an acupressure model, um, my friend who has one just like this calls hers Giovanni Shindo.

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Yes, and so I'm.

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I'm I, right now, I'm going to call him the twin brother of Giovanni Shindo.

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We talked about last week.

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His loincloth has fallen off.

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Yeah, it's gone.

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It's gone now.

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Oh, yeah, yep.

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Well, I'm just sorry, Moose.

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Is this okay, it's fine.

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I mean, I am a little distracted, but it'll work.

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Okay, do you need me to move it like I did last week?

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No.

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Okay me that you guys gave me.

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That says don't tell me what to do.

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And he's got a cigarette, he's gota a ciggy and a beer and it's a cat with a collar on it and it's just very indicative of like my, like, bad girl your wild side yeah, my wild side.

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And then I have this f-bomb right here that was given to me by a client.

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Um, who's right?

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who understands that sometimes we drive each other so nuts that the f-bomb is the only correct word that we have.

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Yep um.

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And then I have a skull replica.

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Replica, just it's fiberglass.

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It's not real okay, good, um what if you're like?

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This is my aunt martha yeah, I painted her skull.

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Yeah, um, yeah, so I could.

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I could learn craniosacral um modalities.

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And then there's a book that I wrote the daily verse Um.

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I got a one of those reminders on Facebook seven years ago.

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It showed a social media posts that I did on Facebook and I was still doing the daily verse seven years ago.

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That's cool yeah.

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That's surprising.

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That book is from my mom's personal library and she would have that next to her bed and she would read it every morning while she was having coffee.

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I'm so honored by that, that's really cool.

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Yeah, that's really cool.

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Anything else over there.

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Um, I've got books.

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I've got the Holy Bible.

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Um friend, lisa, gave me this from her family archives.

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I've got the adult children of alcoholics, the ACA, the big red book.

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I did not realize you brought that.

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That's fantastic.

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We're going to need to tap into that.

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Do you know that?

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I?

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bought a copy of that for every member of my family for christmas last year no way that was two years ago, and every every time somebody opened theirs, they were like um, thanks, like it yeah it's an odd, it's an odd thing to give as a gift.

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It is an odd gift we speaking of bad gifts, and I don't want wait.

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Let me just comment on that first.

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Okay, what was the conversation after that?

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With my family, yeah.

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Um, cause the person you're referring to is no longer alive, so it's not like it was a pointing a finger to like your mom or something.

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Oh right, yeah.

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My mom like my, I mean my mom like well, maybe have a whiskey like once in a blue moon.

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Like no, my mom is certainly not an alcoholic and my dad was.

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I guess what I mean is they weren't in the room, so it wasn't that awkward Like who's the alcoholic?

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No, no, it wasn't.

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That part wasn't awkward, it was just like it's Christmas morning, like the boys still believe in Santa Claus.

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You know what I mean.

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It's like you're like I would like to approach all of the family issues right now on christmas morning, exactly merry, fucking christmas like what a weird gift yeah, you know it is weird, but also valuable.

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It's so valuable, I mean I and I have two copies in my house and so I brought one of them here and then I've got an animal power book and then I've got good to great, because it really shaped how I, how I do my.

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That's great, my business I love it.

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Sarah, what about your background?

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okay, I've got I'm.

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I'm struggling because my camera's not straight on, so I'm like mirrored and you're doing great thanks like your shot is the best.

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Thanks, um, I, you actually moose, gave me this.

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Nope, this guy oh where's the finger Closer to you?

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This one.

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No wait, oh my God, there it is there.

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It is there, it is, it's mirrored, and I've not figured out how to unmirror Anyway it's a Mr Rogers quote.

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I also have Mr Rogers back here.

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Yep, there he is.

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Are his ashes in there?

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No?

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Is he?

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still alive?

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No, he died, he died.

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I thought so.

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Does it feel good when you're just about to do something that you know is wrong and you decide to do something else, something that won't hurt you or anybody else?

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Doesn't that feel great it?

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Does feel great.

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We are talking about nothing new on this podcast.

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What?

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do you?

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mean he said that like decades ago.

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Yeah, agreed, yeah, decades ago.

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Yeah, agreed, yeah, okay.

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So then I also have my my first place award for eating watermelon.

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This is the coolest award I've ever won in my life?

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Yes, Um, I never actually got it, uh, when I was a child, because I think I cheated, but somehow I won the first place for eating watermelon and no one ever gave me an award for it.

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So these guys did and got me.

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Cause we think you're a winner.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's a cool award.

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It's very cool and just for most clarity, that was all news.

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I had nothing to do with that.

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That is not true.

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We discussed it.

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We did discuss it and we both paid for it.

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Oh yeah, I forgot that part.

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I love plants a lot.

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This plant technically belongs next to the kitchen sink, because I've just learned that's where its home is, because it needs to be watered quite frequently and anyway, so I gave it some water today.

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It's sad, but I love this plant it's a great plant there's some marbles back here.

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This has to do with um a bob goff thing.

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You've lost your marbles.

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No, I can't remember it right now, but I it was really important.

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I'll come back to that at some point.

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I've named her, and then there's this doll head.

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Right, which is so creepy?

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Weird, it's weird.

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I got moose.

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There's an episode post on this, so basically I have a huge fear of porcelain dolls, as you should.

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And as a reminder, my sister and mom speaking of weird Christmas gifts, kat, for my birthday they gave me an entire photo album full of porcelain dolls that they positioned.

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I mean, it must have taken them months to create this photo album, but it's an old school photo it was printed out from Walgreens of porcelain dolls sitting around the house eating in front of food that was their gift to me.

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That is that is so good.

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It's the intentionality and that is just stunning, do you?

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Did you feel so?

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seen, I did I.

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And they didn't even like hand it to me in person.

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They mailed it to me with with the porcelain doll that they found.

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I mean, come on, it's like they pretty much invented elf on a shelf.

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That's so funny.

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But see, when I was young, my mom I know, my grandmother got me this porcelain doll and it scared the hell out of me, so my mom had to hide it.

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And somewhere in all of these moves they found this porcelain doll.

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And I mean, yeah, I agree.

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Like, instead of just being like let's mail it to her.

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They're like no, what is one step further, let's create her worst nightmare.

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Yes of yeah.

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So it was just a photo album of porcelain dolls being posed in weird I mean that I wish I had known that before and I just think that that is so fantastic and it's a part of what makes you you oh yeah, I really think they're weird.

00:16:48.485 --> 00:16:53.763
I feel like they're, they watch you do you know that I have two dolls in my treatment room?

00:16:53.763 --> 00:16:56.748
I do porcelain dolls.

00:16:56.748 --> 00:16:59.033
I don't think they're porcelain, why what?

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kind of dolls are they?

00:17:00.301 --> 00:17:01.462
yeah, that's a fair question.

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Well, I think they're plastic why well?

00:17:05.050 --> 00:17:06.113
I helped is this where?

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you go, let me show you what is a good touch and a bad touch wow, and then and then you say and if you feel me giving you a bad touch, let me know oh my god, like that's so terrifying it's terrible, it's very terrifying.

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I would like to completely pivot from dolls no, why are there dolls in the?

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Room.

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It's important because I was helping my friend um dispose of some stuff she was ready to let go of and I thought the box that the dolls came in was really cool because it's super like vintagey and so I'm using it as like a a stand.

00:17:45.117 --> 00:17:47.125
I'm not ever getting body work from you.

00:17:47.556 --> 00:17:48.520
Nobody will now.

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All my clients are like they just drop, like flies.

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You start getting reviews.

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Like excellent body work session, but gotta be honest, won't be back.

00:18:01.228 --> 00:18:05.465
She had porcelain dolls lining the walls of her studio.

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They're not lining the walls.

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They're not lining the walls.

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That is awesome.

00:18:08.705 --> 00:18:09.434
Now can I the walls, and it's awesome.

00:18:09.934 --> 00:18:12.021
Now can I pivot to a different thing, please?

00:18:12.021 --> 00:18:19.645
This week I am getting to have experiences with two of my favorite artists.

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One is coming up tonight.

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I'm going to see Sarah McLachlan.

00:18:23.634 --> 00:18:25.515
No, we are going to see Sarah McLachlan.

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Yes, we have been talking about it for months.

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Yes we've been talking about it.

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We are going to see Sarah McLaughlin.

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Yes, we have been talking about it for months.

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Yes, we've been talking about it and I'm so excited that the show is tonight.

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Me too.

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I bought us chairs ahead of time, rented us chairs ahead of time, we rented parking spots so that we can like be close.

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Like it's going to be a fantastic time it's going to be so fun.

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Yeah, it's going to be hot as a motherfucker, hot as fuck so I was thinking like it might be a good idea this afternoon to go to like prime iv or 615 drip or whatever and get some that idea get some fluids, like seriously, because we're gonna sweat our balls off.

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I actually am into that, yeah what?

00:19:02.844 --> 00:19:03.807
why does this stress you out?

00:19:03.846 --> 00:19:06.055
well, last time you I've got a lot of feelings.

00:19:06.055 --> 00:19:07.900
It was the magnesium.

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Are you sure?

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Yes, it got me so sick Last time you did this you were sick.

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They won't be able to find my veins and they never can, so that sounds horrible.

00:19:18.954 --> 00:19:20.481
Well, this is not a good idea then.

00:19:20.481 --> 00:19:22.541
Anyway, we're going to go see Sarah McLachlan tonight.

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That's going to be really fun.

00:19:23.464 --> 00:19:28.939
It is, and this week I am Celine Dion.

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You are her.

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No, oh that documentary came out.

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It's called I am oh yeah, she says you did just say this I am.

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Celine Dion yes, I am, which I think in the Bible.

00:19:44.169 --> 00:19:47.832
Well, in the Bible, you know when, when Moses says like who are you?

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I am, I am, that I am.

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So I am who I say I am.

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Is that in the Bible?

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It's something like that.

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It's like I am, that I am.

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It's very confusing, kind of like the Pauline epistles, like I do the things I don't want to do, because I don't want to do the things that I do.

00:20:01.026 --> 00:20:10.596
I wrote a song about that a song about that.

00:20:10.615 --> 00:20:12.219
Oh yeah, we'll insert it right here oh yeah, do you want me to find it?

00:20:12.219 --> 00:20:12.880
I'll just tell you how it goes.

00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:17.515
Okay, one, two, three why do I do the things that I do, that I know I don't want to?

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do.

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That is fantastic it's kind of like my um.

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I am not in charge.

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I am not in charge.

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I am not in charge, I am not in charge.

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I am not in charge.

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I am free of responsibility.

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I am free of responsibility.

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Okay, so we're gonna do the dang it?

00:20:35.643 --> 00:20:36.906
the epistle, what is it?

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The paul?

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The pauline epistles pauline epistles pauline why do I do the things that I do?

00:20:41.965 --> 00:20:47.203
That I know I don't want to do I just came up with it one day it is so brilliant.

00:20:47.223 --> 00:20:48.849
Thank you, it's absolutely brilliant.

00:20:48.849 --> 00:21:01.520
And celine basically said I am celine dion and so I just thought it was interesting, okay, and the documentary I felt like was absolutely like.

00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:06.028
I just let myself get completely sucked in by it okay, wait.

00:21:06.169 --> 00:21:21.355
So you've already seen it yes, I know she saw it without us I did and I didn't know I was supposed to wait I didn't know that I was supposed to wait, okay, um and I have a feeling you would watch it again with us I will watch it again with you several times if you want.

00:21:21.494 --> 00:21:43.329
I just thought it was really really good, okay, and I also thought that her perspective, like her human perspective, was very interesting, and also to me like she's an anomaly, an enigma, because she's got a warehouse that is her wardrobe.

00:21:43.329 --> 00:21:45.481
It's literally a warehouse.

00:21:45.481 --> 00:21:46.183
Why?

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Because she's got so many costumes, like so many, and she talked about like how, um, her clothing designers, like it's fascinating.

00:21:56.704 --> 00:22:00.058
It was a really I've enjoyed the documentary, so into watching that.

00:22:00.098 --> 00:22:04.519
Yeah, I would love to watch it too, I think I I have a fear I would like to talk about, though.

00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:43.303
Okay, on one of trailers it was her like weeping and it was on Instagram or whatever, but she basically was like somebody said your fans want to see you sing again, celine, and she goes oh, it was like all these clicks and stuff, and then she was like I will sing again, yeah, which I loved, but there was a lot of crying and and the trailer, and I was traumatized, not by that, by Lady Gaga's documentary.

00:22:43.303 --> 00:22:44.145
Did you see that?

00:22:44.145 --> 00:22:46.682
No, it's probably eight years ago or something.

00:22:46.795 --> 00:23:06.982
Okay, but the entire time and I love Lady Gaga, but the entire time she was in ice baths screaming her brains out, and it was a huge trigger for me because I was like, Lord have mercy, Like it was just her in constant pain all the time and I was like how about we not do that to ourselves?

00:23:07.063 --> 00:23:08.586
Right, right, like that's a choice.

00:23:09.674 --> 00:23:19.063
This is not when we're winning, when our body is collapsing, you know, and so I got fearful that was going to be a lot of her in pain, and I'm sensitive to that.

00:23:19.182 --> 00:23:31.221
So was it um, there there are a couple of moments where she has like a quote-unquote episode, i't know and I'm trying to be respectful about it, I don't know what to call it it was.

00:23:31.221 --> 00:23:44.675
It was a physical it seemed physical and emotional release of pain, probably pain and and also this like neurological disorder that just kind of seizes her body.

00:23:44.675 --> 00:23:51.720
And what I found so hopeful about it is one of the people that was there with her is a body worker.

00:23:51.720 --> 00:24:21.844
Oh wow, and I just kind of thought like okay, like I, like I was just so glad that she's able to resource herself with that kind of support, like she had lots of support around it, so it just really, I don't know, it just made her very human to me and I she's one of those people, one of those celebrities that I also want to be like immortal, like, yeah, like not even human, because she's so great, like such an icon, you know.

00:24:22.151 --> 00:24:30.373
Um, so I really enjoyed being inspired by artists who I love this week, not to mention my clients and the music that we get to work with.

00:24:30.373 --> 00:24:35.900
You know, it's like I just feel like I've gotten to have a real um inspired week.

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I love that.

00:24:36.800 --> 00:24:37.261
That's fine.

00:24:37.261 --> 00:24:38.844
Thanks for listening I'm excited.

00:24:39.224 --> 00:24:41.231
Uh, we, the three of us, realized.

00:24:41.231 --> 00:24:44.678
So there's like six of us going tonight.

00:24:44.678 --> 00:24:52.117
Yes, um, and the three or four of us within that six realize that feist is opening.

00:24:52.178 --> 00:24:53.681
Yes, oh, my god, I'm so excited.

00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:56.917
I know I haven't heard feist's name in forever.

00:24:56.917 --> 00:24:57.339
I have any.

00:24:57.339 --> 00:24:57.740
What's her?

00:24:57.740 --> 00:24:58.944
What's the big song?

00:24:58.944 --> 00:25:01.071
One, two three, four.

00:25:01.192 --> 00:25:03.240
Tell me that you love me more.

00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:11.459
Do you want me to play?

00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:19.257
yeah, yeah, I mean her vocals fantastic, and then also Alison Russell.

00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:23.394
Yeah, it said Alison Russell was going to be there, so is Sarah going to go on at like 10?

00:25:23.394 --> 00:25:24.759
I think so, man.

00:25:24.818 --> 00:25:26.655
I hope she's okay yeah we're going to be wasted by then.

00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:27.859
We're going to be so hot.

00:25:29.070 --> 00:25:38.759
It's going to be hot Wasted from the heat we were outside earlier, earlier, like just at nine something, and literal sweat drops just already falling.

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.654
It's so my my knee pits are sweating oh yeah, mine are too right now.

00:25:43.116 --> 00:25:50.162
Okay, a couple things I want to cover, and this part sarah, if you could set an alarm for two and a half minutes, that is the most I want to talk about.

00:25:50.162 --> 00:25:52.476
This got it.

00:25:52.675 --> 00:25:59.740
No, I, I got it I got it just in your mind you can have, it okay, two and a half minutes can we talk about the debate?

00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:06.215
oh boy, we have to talk about this now.

00:26:06.215 --> 00:26:22.673
Last week I I really enjoyed my kind of okay, here are three candidates, you know a felon, a guy with a worm in his brain right and a guy that's in euphoria at random times okay, so like that just sets the stage for the debate.

00:26:22.673 --> 00:26:23.935
What, what did you think?

00:26:24.797 --> 00:26:26.401
oh my gosh, it was so uncomfortable.

00:26:26.401 --> 00:26:36.744
There were so many great memes after the fact, and one of my favorites was um uh, hey, siri, why does suffering exist?

00:26:36.744 --> 00:26:47.450
Every one of my devices just answered the question.

00:26:47.450 --> 00:26:55.713
Suffering could be the result of natural evil, including earthquakes, disease or human evil, war and injustice.

00:26:55.713 --> 00:26:56.817
Okay, thank, you.

00:26:56.836 --> 00:26:59.682
What I'm curious about is what is unnatural, evil, agreed?

00:27:01.172 --> 00:27:07.742
good point, maybe like um, maybe like sucralose or something, I don't know um.

00:27:07.742 --> 00:27:09.451
Okay, so back to the debate.

00:27:09.451 --> 00:27:13.362
So, um, I was uncomfortable 90% of the time.

00:27:13.362 --> 00:27:15.317
I was surprised.

00:27:15.317 --> 00:27:17.277
These are just my top line things.

00:27:17.277 --> 00:27:25.153
I was surprised at how chill Donald Trump was like definitely gave him a Xanax Thought.

00:27:25.153 --> 00:27:29.036
It was brilliant that they turned off the mics while the other one was talking.

00:27:30.131 --> 00:27:35.804
I actually liked that the moderators from CNN did not try and fact check it.

00:27:35.804 --> 00:27:37.616
They just let the two people talk.

00:27:37.616 --> 00:27:41.019
Yep, I know a lot of people were not fans of that, but I I didn't mind it.

00:27:41.019 --> 00:27:45.740
Um, I thought Trump was in as normally.

00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:52.057
I mean he wasn't as insane as normal, but like nothing he said like actually had any substance.

00:27:52.057 --> 00:27:55.519
And then Biden I just felt bad for the whole time yeah me too.

00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:59.000
I don't think he knew his mouth was open when he was listening.

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:06.740
I mean, I, I I love Biden, and yet I was like I am not comfortable with him being the president.

00:28:06.861 --> 00:28:07.430
Yeah, it's.

00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:12.701
And then they they put him out in the wild the next day and he was totally fine.

00:28:12.861 --> 00:28:14.023
Well, he was like yelling yeah.

00:28:14.711 --> 00:28:15.575
I just energy.

00:28:15.575 --> 00:28:20.926
I have, and not that I questioned that but it's more than pick the right environment for the guy Like, or.

00:28:20.926 --> 00:28:29.758
I mean sure you can't avoid the debate space in the room and all of this, you know, but let's, let's market him when he's in his best light.

00:28:30.118 --> 00:28:36.811
Then yeah him when he's in his best light, then yeah.

00:28:36.811 --> 00:28:39.217
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing to say you have a everybody's like.

00:28:39.237 --> 00:28:39.978
Well, obama's first debate was bad.

00:28:39.978 --> 00:28:40.598
No, no obama.

00:28:40.618 --> 00:28:42.482
I mean obama, it was not good.

00:28:42.482 --> 00:28:44.712
I'm not saying it was great, but it also.

00:28:44.712 --> 00:28:47.877
He said things that you could follow.

00:28:47.877 --> 00:28:49.240
He was coherent.

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.253
Yeah, he wasn't just like grunting half the time.

00:28:52.253 --> 00:28:55.071
I was surprised trump didn't make fun of him.

00:28:55.071 --> 00:28:56.236
I'm glad he did.

00:28:56.296 --> 00:28:57.319
I didn't either, I was.

00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:04.157
I mean, I agree, yeah, yeah, it'd be because he could have and he even a couple of looks he made.

00:29:04.458 --> 00:29:05.299
He caught himself.

00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:07.431
Yeah, I'm not giving trump any credit.

00:29:07.570 --> 00:29:12.340
Let me just say that I was like wow, somebody swung your book.

00:29:12.340 --> 00:29:13.983
Somebody, you know nobody.

00:29:15.153 --> 00:29:17.354
Hell, no, but hell.

00:29:17.354 --> 00:29:22.144
No to the na-na-na, but hell no to the na-na-na.

00:29:22.670 --> 00:29:23.634
Have you heard that song?

00:29:23.634 --> 00:29:24.056
It's so good.

00:29:26.053 --> 00:29:26.695
I'll throw it in.

00:29:26.695 --> 00:29:39.203
I guess my final point even though I've gone over the time limit, because I still want to hear yours is you know, all the commentators after the fact were discussing somebody.

00:29:39.203 --> 00:29:40.536
We got to put somebody else in there.

00:29:40.536 --> 00:29:42.096
But it's not that simple, right?

00:29:42.096 --> 00:29:50.917
You can't just like, oh, let's go get Pete Buttigieg, buttigieg, buttigieg and put him in.

00:29:50.917 --> 00:29:51.711
It's not that simple.

00:29:51.711 --> 00:29:57.693
And then they had kamala on every single evening show, late night show, morning show.

00:29:57.693 --> 00:30:06.178
The next day she's in la doing all this press and it's like are you gonna slide her in there, which I'm not mad about a lot of people are.

00:30:06.798 --> 00:30:21.051
I love her talking about women's rights yeah, me too and there's about 65 of america not republic, not, you know, including republicans that are big fans of women's women being able to do what they want with their own bodies.

00:30:21.132 --> 00:30:33.364
Right, I just think that, like when it comes down to being the leader of, quote unquote, the most powerful nation in the free world.

00:30:33.364 --> 00:30:37.654
Yeah, women's rights are important yeah, I would say so.

00:30:37.654 --> 00:30:53.790
We're at least half of the population it's not the only issue I understand but and to me it's like what I want to hear a little bit more about like, how are we going to navigate, not getting eaten alive by china?

00:30:54.471 --> 00:30:56.214
well, by the way, we just were.

00:30:56.214 --> 00:31:07.241
We just showed china and the rest of the world that come on in, boo, ain't nobody paying that much attention, we're just eating gummies over here.

00:31:07.301 --> 00:31:27.026
I know I mean that's what it feels like and it's like, oh my gosh, like to me it's like women's rights and this and that and it's all very important, but it's like I feel like nobody's talking about, like, are we going to be able to exist as a democratic society right in the next couple of years?

00:31:27.106 --> 00:31:28.390
no, I don't disagree.

00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:36.641
But also if we lose our rights to our bodies, that that is the beginning of Handmaid's Tale.

00:31:36.681 --> 00:31:37.482
Yes, Thank you.

00:31:37.482 --> 00:31:40.875
Thank you, what's it called An Aryan society?

00:31:40.875 --> 00:31:42.355
Yeah, I think.

00:31:42.355 --> 00:31:43.558
I don't know.

00:31:45.173 --> 00:31:46.258
I don't want to be a part of that.

00:31:46.258 --> 00:31:47.452
I do not want to.

00:31:47.452 --> 00:31:48.435
We're going to Canada.

00:31:48.596 --> 00:31:49.861
Yep, I'm fine.

00:31:49.861 --> 00:31:52.017
I mean you could get dual citizenship.

00:31:52.017 --> 00:31:55.252
I keep begging you Get some dual citizenship.

00:31:55.895 --> 00:31:57.160
How is it that you can do that?

00:31:58.431 --> 00:32:02.813
Apparently, because my grandparents are Canadian, we're Canadian.

00:32:02.813 --> 00:32:04.077
That is so cool.

00:32:04.730 --> 00:32:04.990
I know.

00:32:05.051 --> 00:32:07.896
If I had that, I'd be like I mean, you need to get busy yo.

00:32:07.896 --> 00:32:09.296
That's what I'm talking about.

00:32:09.296 --> 00:32:16.479
She can sneak us across the border when things get rough, we're going to need it, I'll be June.

00:32:17.269 --> 00:32:18.192
Wait, I don't want to be June.

00:32:18.192 --> 00:32:19.576
I'm not signing up for that.

00:32:19.576 --> 00:32:21.751
No, wow, okay, wait, can you give us?

00:32:22.232 --> 00:32:23.535
your best, June.

00:32:23.535 --> 00:32:30.288
Look though it's great.

00:32:30.288 --> 00:32:31.250
I love it.

00:32:39.483 --> 00:32:52.923
Okay, here's mine if you watch handmaid's tale for or anything Elizabeth Moss is in.

00:32:52.923 --> 00:32:55.025
Yeah, that is her look, that's her.

00:32:55.045 --> 00:32:56.346
Look, I'm into it.

00:32:56.445 --> 00:32:56.946
I like it.

00:32:57.130 --> 00:32:59.097
Yeah, but it became too much.

00:32:59.097 --> 00:33:03.421
The thing is is I know this woman's face better than I know my own mother's.

00:33:03.421 --> 00:33:05.887
Correct, Correct, you know what I mean Exactly.

00:33:05.887 --> 00:33:09.731
And like I was a breastfed baby, okay.

00:33:09.771 --> 00:33:10.313
Wow, Wow oh wow.

00:33:10.333 --> 00:33:11.473
I was a breastfed baby.

00:33:11.493 --> 00:33:12.115
Okay, wow, oh wow.

00:33:12.115 --> 00:33:13.016
I'm just saying, do you?

00:33:13.056 --> 00:33:14.977
know her breasts better than your mother's.

00:33:14.997 --> 00:33:20.162
No, no, I hope not so weird, but her face.

00:33:20.162 --> 00:33:33.934
I mean, it's like if we took out all of the shots of her face, yeah, all of these episodes could be condensed into like 30 minutes that's so true and tell quite a story.

00:33:34.115 --> 00:33:41.455
Think yeah, it's like whenever they're like oh, that shot, we shot, didn't work, just put elizabeth's face.

00:33:41.455 --> 00:33:51.884
It's like our wide shot, yeah so when we go to canada, which which crossing do you think we should go through?

00:33:51.884 --> 00:33:53.750
Like are we going across Niagara Falls?

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:55.938
Cause we're just acting cool Like we're tourists?

00:33:56.109 --> 00:33:57.755
I am not going across Niagara Falls.

00:33:57.755 --> 00:33:59.179
That is so scary, and no, no.

00:33:59.789 --> 00:34:03.773
I mean like the border not actually Niagara Falls or are we going like?

00:34:03.773 --> 00:34:04.557
Montana.

00:34:04.557 --> 00:34:07.992
We go on like Calgary, what's?

00:34:08.032 --> 00:34:14.711
the Washington, Washington, Washington state Cause they're already cool, Okay so in case they kick us back in.

00:34:14.773 --> 00:34:16.490
It'll take a while for people to get to Washington State.

00:34:16.530 --> 00:34:18.115
At least we can commit legal suicide.

00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:21.637
Oh, that's true, they do have legal suicide.

00:34:21.637 --> 00:34:25.480
That's a great point In Washington, yeah.

00:34:25.541 --> 00:34:26.813
Or is it Oregon or both?

00:34:27.355 --> 00:34:28.237
I think it's Washington.

00:34:28.289 --> 00:34:30.010
Yeah, I think those two states.

00:34:30.010 --> 00:34:31.476
I don't want to do that either.

00:34:31.476 --> 00:34:33.672
It's an option.

00:34:33.853 --> 00:34:35.295
We're talking about options.

00:34:35.295 --> 00:34:37.860
We're wearing red capes at this point.

00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:42.014
Shit, we're, we're in.

00:34:42.034 --> 00:34:49.195
We are that is the point I was trying to make sarah is now with us.

00:34:49.916 --> 00:34:52.141
Okay, wait, are the red capes the wives, though?

00:34:52.141 --> 00:34:58.135
Oh no, it's the actual the red, yeah, teal is the.

00:34:58.135 --> 00:34:59.458
What are the wives that?

00:34:59.458 --> 00:35:01.101
Are yeah, okay, do you?

00:35:01.101 --> 00:35:09.581
Can you guys think of any friends of ours I or maybe not friends, people we know who will be the wives of the men taking?

00:35:09.682 --> 00:35:09.882
over.

00:35:09.882 --> 00:35:14.641
Yes, yeah, me too, yeah, absolutely, oh, yeah, yeah, I could picture them in that teal too.

00:35:14.949 --> 00:35:18.697
Yeah, yeah, I look good in red though so I'm happy about that.

00:35:18.757 --> 00:35:22.956
Yeah, you look great in red and I I don't look good in either of those colors.

00:35:22.956 --> 00:35:26.911
I want to jump back to canada and celine dion for just one second.

00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:28.554
Yeah, we are in podcast.

00:35:28.554 --> 00:35:32.119
Yeah, hi, leslie canada.

00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.182
By the way, we're huge fans of you.

00:35:34.262 --> 00:35:35.590
I get to go at the end of the month.

00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:36.311
I'm so excited.

00:35:36.311 --> 00:35:37.775
Oh, that's so cool.

00:35:37.775 --> 00:35:38.818
Yeah, what for?

00:35:38.818 --> 00:35:41.952
I get to go to toronto for a show of one of my artists is going to be doing.

00:35:41.992 --> 00:35:42.634
I'm excited.

00:35:42.653 --> 00:35:44.918
Well, great toronto hey, maybe you can.

00:35:44.918 --> 00:35:56.192
Oh yeah, maybe I can just stop by the toronto embassy and say hey, things are getting bad south of here, hey what are just getting my plan in place.

00:35:56.192 --> 00:35:58.175
Do you guys have a?

00:35:58.295 --> 00:36:11.036
shelter I could go ahead and rent for about four friends that look great in red yeah, yeah okay, back to toronto and celine yeah, so celine d?

00:36:11.056 --> 00:36:17.481
Celine Dion's from Canada, and I just wanted to mention a quote from her documentary that I should have inserted earlier.

00:36:17.481 --> 00:36:19.143
You stupid whore.

00:36:19.143 --> 00:36:20.485
Damn it, damn you.

00:36:20.485 --> 00:36:31.800
She said if you want to go fast, you go alone, If you want to go far, you go together.

00:36:31.989 --> 00:36:34.416
Oh, come on, Isn't that great, that great.

00:36:34.416 --> 00:36:35.018
I love it.

00:36:35.219 --> 00:36:37.474
I thought it was too I thought it was super like.

00:36:37.474 --> 00:36:46.856
Needs to be on like a statue somewhere I agree, maybe the one behind you, maybe him put it right there on his feet for you with him.

00:36:48.177 --> 00:36:50.380
Yeah, have you ever been to a Celine show?

00:36:51.382 --> 00:36:51.782
Yes.

00:36:52.262 --> 00:36:53.764
With Mary Mac yes.

00:36:53.925 --> 00:36:57.673
Yeah, I've been to two with Mary Mac.

00:36:58.235 --> 00:36:59.356
So is she performing?

00:36:59.356 --> 00:37:03.945
Not yet she's not, but you will buy like $500 tickets.

00:37:04.269 --> 00:37:13.559
Absolutely when she performs, absolutely, yep, I I bought a $500 ticket with a friend of mine who is like kind of a big deal in the music industry now.

00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.032
I'm so, so proud of her.

00:37:15.032 --> 00:37:21.833
When I met her she was an intern and now she's like running the world in the country music space.

00:37:21.833 --> 00:37:45.016
But anyway, when Celine was playing here in town years ago we went last minute to the box office like as the show was starting, oh cool, and paid like hundreds of dollars and we were like, oh really, we were like as close as elizabeth moss's face to celine dion and it was fantastic it was.

00:37:45.016 --> 00:37:48.286
It was such a good show and I mean we were right there.

00:37:48.306 --> 00:37:52.496
It was so great would you say she's your favorite artist.

00:37:53.376 --> 00:37:55.822
Good question no, oh no.

00:37:55.822 --> 00:38:04.021
I I'm really inspired by her a lot, I think you really like how she pounds her chest I like her passion.

00:38:04.161 --> 00:38:10.960
Yeah, I mean, it's weird, it's we, it's we well, we know it's weird, but it's also inspiring it's very inspiring to me.

00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.123
I would say my favorite artist is probably Sarah McLachlan.

00:38:16.251 --> 00:38:19.934
We are going tonight my favorite artist of all time.

00:38:19.934 --> 00:38:23.742
I mean Brandi Carlo Just is there, you go how about you, Sarah.

00:38:23.742 --> 00:38:29.498
But of all time, yeah, I mean like yeah, I mean I think you have a new one.

00:38:30.231 --> 00:38:31.313
I have a new one right now.

00:38:31.313 --> 00:38:35.958
Her name is Noga Erez, n-o-g-a-e-r-e-z.

00:38:35.958 --> 00:38:37.134
Everybody go look her up.

00:38:37.134 --> 00:38:39.134
She's so freaking creative.

00:38:39.153 --> 00:38:43.034
Noga Erez, so fun you got your start because of the Cat in the House podcast.

00:38:43.034 --> 00:38:43.677
Yeah, you did.

00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:46.398
She is an Israeli hip-hop artist.

00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:51.293
Yeah yeah, she's so freaking creative I'm obsessed.

00:38:51.293 --> 00:38:54.842
I've been obsessed for like probably six or eight weeks now, maybe more.

00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:57.516
We're going to see your favorite artists tonight.

00:38:57.516 --> 00:38:59.139
I know together it's going to be so fun.

00:38:59.139 --> 00:38:59.481
I'm excited.

00:38:59.481 --> 00:39:06.322
I really need to figure out how to you think I could put a fan, one of those personal fans.

00:39:06.322 --> 00:39:08.036
Hey, you bought some, I know.

00:39:08.036 --> 00:39:11.523
We should get those charged, I know, but can we bring them into the concert?

00:39:11.663 --> 00:39:12.804
It doesn't say you can't.

00:39:13.485 --> 00:39:16.954
As long as it fits in my clear bag, as long as it fits in your clear bag.

00:39:16.974 --> 00:39:18.978
That's 16 by 13, by three or something.

00:39:18.998 --> 00:39:20.422
I know the whole thing is so stupid.

00:39:20.422 --> 00:39:23.036
We have one of those, we're good, I'm not taking anything.

00:39:23.456 --> 00:39:24.380
I'm taking my phone.

00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:33.224
I have a bag Okay, clear bag if you need to put anything in there, great, yeah, I'm, I'm really just taking my phone.

00:39:33.224 --> 00:39:34.085
So they?

00:39:34.085 --> 00:39:39.092
This is the place at Ascend.

00:39:39.092 --> 00:39:41.623
Amphitheater in Nashville where you can get a bottle of wine delivered to your lawn chair.

00:39:41.643 --> 00:39:42.527
Yeah, it's really neat, it's cool.

00:39:42.527 --> 00:39:42.889
Yeah.

00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:47.275
How have we determined how you're going to keep it cold Cool?

00:39:47.894 --> 00:39:48.615
No, what the what?

00:39:48.615 --> 00:39:49.637
The wine, what the what?

00:39:49.637 --> 00:39:55.505
The wine oh no, they bring it to you and it comes in a chilled, yeah, yeah, but she can't drink it all.

00:39:55.525 --> 00:40:02.880
I mean she just, I mean I could and I would be the one.

00:40:05.110 --> 00:40:19.891
Your love is better than mine, oh my God, did you have your video on you for that?

00:40:19.911 --> 00:40:20.391
only patrons get that.

00:40:20.391 --> 00:40:22.496
Wow, damn, I've never seen you like that.

00:40:22.596 --> 00:40:29.876
It was ice cream was it oh, it was ice cream, that is not how it you were making love to that ice cream.

00:40:29.896 --> 00:40:33.367
That's what I, with your also felt okay.

00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:42.195
Well, it's been a great episode guys, I love you both and I'm so glad that we have this new environment that you guys created.

00:40:42.195 --> 00:40:44.222
I mean, you guys how about you.

00:40:44.242 --> 00:40:47.090
You brought all of your fabulous things behind you.

00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:48.331
We have a whole it's a.

00:40:48.672 --> 00:40:50.755
We are just trying to honor you.

00:40:51.436 --> 00:40:52.137
We honor you.

00:40:52.137 --> 00:40:54.061
Thanks, and the scrotum behind you.

00:40:55.302 --> 00:40:55.922
It's the power.

00:40:56.443 --> 00:40:56.965
It's the power.

00:40:56.965 --> 00:40:58.552
All right, get working on that.

00:40:58.552 --> 00:41:01.699
Canadian dual citizenship.

00:41:01.898 --> 00:41:02.599
We need you, Sarah.

00:41:02.681 --> 00:41:04.103
We need you, all of us.

00:41:04.103 --> 00:41:11.172
If you are worried about being a handmade right end, sarah will be our um liaison liaison.

00:41:11.172 --> 00:41:12.704
Hey, and we, and we and Sarah will be our liaison.

00:41:12.724 --> 00:41:12.864
Liaison.

00:41:12.864 --> 00:41:15.670
Hey might make some money and we shall tell a tale.

00:41:15.670 --> 00:41:17.757
I think that's illegal to pay.

00:41:18.289 --> 00:41:21.119
You would be like a coyote bringing us across the border.

00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.414
A pimp, no, that's what they call in Mexico.

00:41:23.414 --> 00:41:24.518
They call them coyotes.

00:41:24.518 --> 00:41:26.074
They help you come across the border.

00:41:26.074 --> 00:41:27.358
Huh, okay, I think it.

00:41:27.358 --> 00:41:28.302
How much are you?

00:41:28.342 --> 00:41:28.728
going to charge.

00:41:28.728 --> 00:41:30.715
We can come up with another animal name.

00:41:30.715 --> 00:41:32.179
We are in the den after all.

00:41:32.179 --> 00:41:33.481
We are in the animal den.

00:41:34.291 --> 00:41:36.840
Welcome to the animal den, the lion's den.

00:41:39.862 --> 00:41:41.047
Daniel's lion's den.

00:41:41.047 --> 00:41:43.610
Protect the vulnerable.

00:41:45.293 --> 00:41:47.454
Bye guys, have a good week, bye, bye.

00:41:47.514 --> 00:41:52.199
Bye.

00:41:56.563 --> 00:41:57.965
Special thanks to our producer.

00:41:58.025 --> 00:41:59.086
Sarah Reed.

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