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Welcome to the Cat and Moose Podcast.
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I'm Kat and I'm Moose.
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This is the True Life Podcast, where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Hey Kat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, hello, hello everyone on this fine day.
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Hi and welcome.
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You seem super chipper Moose oh.
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It's a lie.
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I spent about 24 hours doing a grad school project this weekend and I have about 24 more hours left.
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So I'm trying to be positive guys.
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I'm trying to be positive about life.
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That's awesome.
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How is that going?
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It's going.
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I mean, what are my options?
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I don't want to be negative.
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I got to believe things are going to work out.
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Yeah.
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And they will and they are.
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How are you guys?
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Good, I had a rough couple of days physically, yeah, like I have just not felt extremely great at the front of this week and so, like when my body doesn't feel good, like I feel, like I kind of easily and like whomp whomp.
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So I was really glad that we were going to record this afternoon because it always like kind of brightens my spirits to be with you guys Me too.
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Good, what do these Chinese symbols on your chest Wow?
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Those are cool.
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Thank you, I think that they're very cool.
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It's amazing what you can find on the worldwide web when you just like Google stuff, and I am really, really narrowing down what I want my tattoo to be of.
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Yes, and I'm really convinced that these, it's these characters and it's just the concept of Wu Wei.
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You know the effortless action, the being in the flow, the river beneath the river.
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You know all the things that we love to talk about on the podcast.
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I love that.
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So I found myself a shirt that has these symbols on it, and I'm like I'm going to just see how it feels to have them this close to my body.
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Do you think there's anyone out there that, instead of the Chinese characters, just spelled out Wu Wei on as a tattoo?
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Like can you like research that and bring it back to us?
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100%, that would be so funny if somebody just put Wu.
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Wei.
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Wu Wei, and especially if they just spelled it like it sounds Like W-O-O-O-O-W-A-Y kind of like.
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No way Wu Wei.
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Wu Wei Sarah.
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How are you on this fine?
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day.
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I'm good.
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I feel like I just hit.
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I've been noticing between the three to like five o'clock hours, my body just goes into like shut down.
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You need a nap mode and I haven't been doing the nap part.
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So I'm like man.
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I feel exhausted all of a sudden and I think I'm just getting older.
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Maybe.
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Yeah, that's what happens.
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I never, ever, took naps and like couldn't even take a nap if I tried.
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And lately, if I block out my eyes and my ears so I wear headphones and I also wear a sleep mask I can pretty much go to sleep within five minutes.
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Yeah, it's pretty great, which is great, because I never was able to do that.
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Yeah, we all are kind of yawning.
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Yeah, I would say that that really depicts growth, doesn't it Miss, I suppose?
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I think so.
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I'm not sure.
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Your cup is half full or your cup is half empty.
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Oh it's age, oh it's growth.
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Is that a song that you just made up?
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I love it, Thank you.
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Oh it's age, oh it's growth.
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It's really.
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It's funny that you said that because, like kind of singing allowing oneself to sing is something that I read about today being an attribute of the earth element in Chinese Five Element Theory, and I have been kind of experimenting with some acupressure points.
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Oh, I bet you have.
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I have Does this feel good, and how about this?
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I mean how?
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can you say that and I'm not crack a joke, I wouldn't be myself.
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And I just am trying to get a full sentence out of my mouth.
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Hey, you know how it goes, especially in the first part of the podcast.
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Anyway, I've been holding some points on my leg, on my shin, on like the inside, inside of my shin.
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Actually, let's all do it together.
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So find, if you, if you're a willing, find your kneecap, knecap, ok, got it OK.
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And then go about a hands width from the inside edge of your kneecap and then take your pointer finger and go all the way to where you can feel that bone on the front of your shin.
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Uh-huh, oh, we're going down and just on the outside of it.
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Got it.
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I was always the kid.
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That could not be serious during things like this.
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I'm really trying, but I'm doing what you're saying, ok.
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So am I supposed to be on the outside or the inside of that bone?
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Am I supposed to have a divot on my knee, my leg?
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OK, so it's the inside.
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Ok, that's way easier to see it like that.
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Oh, that's not at all what I was doing.
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Ok, I do need to ask about the divot later.
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Got it OK, Holding OK.
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I'll push in there.
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I'm just curious like what you notice, if anything.
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It's a little tender, but I think it's because of the fascia.
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Ok, say more about that.
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I just have a lot of connect tissue under there that is traumatized, that needs released often.
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What do you feel, sarah?
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You're making eyes.
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I'm trying to decide.
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I think my hand bone you know like where you're.
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You know where you're, my hand bone you know where your big bone connects to your thigh bone, connects to your hip.
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There, yes, that's the hand bone.
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I think we're done.
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Let's see, we're below the knee.
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I think we're below the knee, sarah.
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Well, that's where I'm feeling it up, where my hand bone connects to my hip bone.
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Oh, you're feeling I see, I see, oh, ok, that is like it's.
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I mean, I'm telling you this stuff is absolutely magical.
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So this place is, it's a spleen point, it's a point on the spleen meridian, and, sorry, I get really excited about the stuff it's spleen point number eight and it's called Earth Pivot and I have no idea why I still have to like go and read about it or whatever.
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But what I found out that I thought was so interesting is that I've been holding this place on myself the past couple of days, just off and on, because it's really, really, really, really tender, yeah, like it hurts real, real bad for me to hold it, and I'm like, well, this must be important and this is the stuff that I'm studying, so, like, let's go look up some stuff about it.
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And I found out that this place is what's called the Sheik left point on the spleen meridian, sheik cleft, it's what it sounds like.
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It's X, I dash, c, l, e, f, t, ok, sheik left, sheik left, sheik left.
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And that's the point at which all of kind of the and I'm going to make this very elementary because it's what I need to understand things it's like we're all of the stagnant crap, like all of the energy.
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Within that particular energy flow.
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It accumulates there.
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It kind of all the stagnant energy and stagnant chi and maybe even chi that the body can't really do anything with anymore.
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It all accumulates in this place and if you hold this place or if you go to like an acupuncturist they might needle this place.
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It is said that that allows all of that stagnant stuff to move out.
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Yeah, and so I'm feeling like, wow, I think I have a really lot of stagnant energy at the Sheik left point of my spleen meridian, like what might that mean?
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And I started looking up spleen and stomach, their partners, their earth element energy meridians, and I found that when one has a balanced earth element which I do not right now they feel very sing songy.
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So there's a part of me that did create a song and I think it's neat that sing songiness is one of the things having to do with the place that I learned about.
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Okay, so do you?
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Are you suggesting sing songy is a positive thing, I would say so.
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You would, sarah, see, if somebody sings songy, I feel like they're not authentic.
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Like sing songy as in like I'm doing great, how are you?
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What if it's authentically?
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Well, I've yet to see that.
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So somebody proved to me call and give your hauler and also give me a sing song that is positive and authentic Was the sing song thing that you noticed that I did.
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Did that come across as is inauthentic and just trying to kind of cover things up?
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No, it didn't.
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Okay, okay, so there you are, I'm just.
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I'm just sing song.
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We're a prospective podcast, so I was just sharing that.
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Speaking of hand bones, look at how adorable what this guy is and how his legs are just like hanging open.
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Don't worry, it's a cat.
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It's a cat.
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Yeah, geez guys so cute.
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Where did you capture?
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that beauty.
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Sarah took it upstairs and sent me a photo, and I was like two little hand bones that need eating right there.
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And I call my dogs, my dog's legs.
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When she lays like that, chicken legs, cheek legs, I'm gonna take a bite.
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I'm gonna take a bite of them, chicken legs.
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I'm all eat your cheek legs.
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Okay, hold on.
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I had something related to all of that Chinese medicine stuff that you just talked.
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Oh, I texted you the other day and asked you what these points kind of were underneath the collarbone, because I find when I have anxiety that I press this a lot and it's really tender, and when I press it it does release something like I don't have as much stress.
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So can you tell everyone what this is below the collarbone?
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Yeah, so there's kind of a lot going on around the collarbone, specifically the stomach meridian, and that's kind of like along the nipple line, if you will.
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We've talked about the nipple line before.
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Oh my gosh.
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So right down nipple line for the.
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And then, right on either side of the sternum, is the energy flow of the kidneys.
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And so both of those kind of go up to the collarbone and then, not terribly far from collarbone, there's gallbladder, there's some triple warmer, there's some small intestine stuff.
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So there's a lot going on around the collarbone and the fact that these stomach and kidney places are feeling really good.
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For you it might just be that kind of like what I was talking about with the accumulation point, like it might just be that these areas are carrying some stagnant energy that need to release.
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And that's really cool that you're like self kind of experimenting and saying like hey, does this help me in my body?
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Well, what's happening is I have this habit that I just realized last year, where when I have pain anywhere in my body I have, my nature is to not touch it, so like if I hurt my ankle, I've been alone when something like that's happened and I just can't even look towards the pain.
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So I like drag myself into.
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Like I fell in the yard, stepped in a hole at my old business when I had my office in Franklin and I slammed my knee so hard and I was convinced I literally broke my leg.
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That's how painful it was.
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But I just drug myself to the car and got in the car and I was just going to drive to the hospital.
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I have this story that goes in my head that I'm always alone when I go to the hospital.
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So I'm just used to like dragging myself and but anyway, that's not the point.
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That's a side story that we will talk about in therapy.
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The point is I'm trying to touch myself more, okay.
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Wow guys.
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How's that going?
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Well, it's going.
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I have a new practice that started today.
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I sit in this chair.
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A lot in grad school, a lot of reading, a lot of writing, all of it.
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So I now you'll see behind me I have a blanket laid down.
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Oh, there's a dog on it.
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I have a little shit.
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He wasn't supposed to lay on my blanket.
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Of course he is, but I have a really fuzzy blanket that didn't have dog hair on it until that just happened.
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That I lay on and I read or I listen to whatever it is that I'm doing school wise, and so my new thing is I'm doing this every day as of today.
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So get it, it's only happened once.
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But I'm stretching while I'm reading, so I'm trying to touch my body more in all of the places that Christians do.
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Okay, Well, that sounds like a really nice practice, like a nice little I've got little pinky there as you drink your water.
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That sounds like a really, really nice practice.
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And what's the latest thing that you read over there?
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Is it a thing for school or was it a thing about something?
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else.
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It's Thomas Moore's book Original Self.
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It's incredible.
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Actually, he's kind of a spiritual writer but it talks about how we've been indoctrinated to believe all these social ideas and how to reconnect with our souls.
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Just small, not heavy things, Just lightweight reading.
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It reminds me, moose, of one of the things that you know.
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Talking about practices, I haven't done this in a long time, and it dawned on me today that I might reconsider doing this as a practice, and so I'm kind of inspired by your practice and I want to celebrate that you've done it once, like.
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That's awesome, like, and I hope you get to do it again tomorrow, thank you.
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One of the things that I've kind of stopped doing that I want to start doing again is reminding myself of my mantras, and we came up with them a long time ago, but mine ended up being I'm smart, I know my shit, I am worthy, I'm desirable and I can trust myself.
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I love it.
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Have you been saying those lately?
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I haven't.
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Just today, I was like I need to get back in that mode because I think things are really I mean, they're just really busy right now with work, now that everybody's touring again and you know, I know COVID is still a thing, but it's not like in shutdown mode like it was for 2020 and 21.
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A lot of 2020.
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Right.
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And so it's just like really busy right now.
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So when I get stressed, I go back to my you know blueprint.
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I'm dumb, I'm fat, I'm stupid.
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I'm dumb and fat, I'm stupid.
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And it's like, okay, that's, there's not room for that here anymore, like we've done away with that.
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It's not.
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First of all, it's not true.
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Secondly, I don't need to keep saying it to myself.
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And so just today I was like I'm smart, I know my shit, I'm worthy, I'm desirable, I can trust myself, nice.
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Needs to be re-engraved.
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Yes, reinforce, reinforce you know.
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You know what else you might do if you find yourself kind of doing that self-talk.
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I write out my mantras, and I don't do it every day either.
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I wish I did, but something about writing it like I don't know for me helps make things stick in my brain.
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You know it's almost like you're.
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You know, like when your parents are like you need to go write this a hundred times and you will respect your brother or whatever it is.
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It's kind of like that we have to do that to ourselves every once in a while.
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Yes, yes.
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I've been doing this thing where I'm trying to figure out my second half of life Again, just really light things happening around here, and one of the things I have been thinking about is this idea of like filtering my life.
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I was inspired by this thing that I reposted on the Cat and Moose Instagram and it basically like showed you know how it happens throughout your life, where you start with like 20 friends that are your best friends and then you know as the years go on, and the last one that said 2023 was just a dog as far as your friends go, and so I think you know I'm in this place.
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I always feel like in fall and we always talk about the elements and stuff when it comes to the seasons, but this time is where I wanna like tuck in and start hibernating.
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Seems a little early for most people, but for me.
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I'm down, I wanna sit in my back porch and have a fire pit experience and not really do much more than that.
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But all that to say, I've been thinking about like filtering my life, and not necessarily people, but more like what you're saying, Kat, like more of a mantra thing of what are my values.
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And if the following things that are on my radar that I could spend my energy on don't filter through these following things, then I'm not actually gonna do them.
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Like I'm not gonna spend my time or energy on them, and so my top ones as of late and I'm still kind of finessing them, but my filters are things that feel authentic to me, things that involve inclusion of all people, things that bring love to me and that I feel like I could bring love to, and then kindness and celebration.
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Like those are the five things that I am trying to like filter things through and I'm realizing like so much that's in my life right now like does not include those things.
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Even I'm even thinking about from a client perspective, like if I do not receive these things or feel like I can give those things, then it's not really worth my time because it's just gonna suck the life out of me.
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Yeah, yeah, and are you finding that it's easier or harder to find people who have similar hopes and expectations?
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I feel like the hard thing about this midlife thing is that we spend.
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You know, richard Roar says we spend all the time filling our cups and then we realize what we need to be spending time is the container right, which is us, and so is that how he says it, sarah, it's.
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I think it's the opposite.
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We spend the first half of our life kind of decorating what we look like and presenting oh, that's what it is.
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That makes more sense.
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And then the second half is filling up who we are like.
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What are we about?
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What do I want and what do I need and what do I like?
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And probably the easier way to say that is external to internal you know, like you start going like, okay, I got all of the things I wanted, or I got all the experience I wanted, but now I feel empty, or whatever that is.
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So, to answer your question, I find that people in our age group, and also for myself, I have certain people who are gonna stick around for the second act, and I have some people who their time has expired.
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And that's not because they're not good people, it's just because I don't wanna waste my energy defending my life.
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Yeah that's all.
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Again lightweight topics, just light stuff guys, exactly okay, and I know we bring this up about at least every other episode but the changing of the seasons, because we're ever changing in our seasons, both physically, internally, externally all of that and there's this video that has come across my feed a couple times and I save it every time and it's just perfectly timely for this it's.
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The video itself is cool for us to see, but it's more about the words that I want everyone to hear, and they are coming from an author and spoken word artist named Ali Michelle, and so here we go.
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My friend told me about this study they did a few years ago where they injected these beautiful redwood trees with a chemical similar to adrenaline, so that way the trees wouldn't go into hibernation and these mighty trees that normally lived for hundreds of years died within one year because they didn't have a season of wintering.
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And I think about us humans, the way we expect ourselves to be in constant spring, always blooming, always producing, always distracted and not making time for those moments with the people we love or those moments with nature.
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Distraction is the death of art, but boredom is the birthplace of it.
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That's really cool.
