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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast.
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I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
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This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
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Hi.
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Cat, Hi Sarah, Hi everyone.
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I didn't actually say that to you, even though we've been hanging out for the last five minutes.
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Hi, sarah.
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Well, I didn't give you much of a choice either.
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Why, what do you mean?
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Well, because I immediately was when you were like I might have to pop out.
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I was like I got because you have your own podcast.
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Well, I do, but that's not why.
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Yeah, I'm really proud of you, sarah.
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Like, congratulations on um sequestered.
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I know we talked about this last week too, but I just am really proud of you and I think the marketing that you guys have done um for your podcast about your experience as a juror number 11, um.
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I've really been impressed with you guys, thank you.
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Thanks, kat, yeah, welcome.
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Moose is killing it in the marketing world and all of the social media things that I absolutely hate doing, but I'm doing my best.
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She actually was as amazing.
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I just have to brag on her for a minute because she's taken all of these skills that she's used in her music industry job over the last 20 plus years and she's just supplying them to this podcast and going let's just write a press release and send it out.
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And I'm like what, how do you just write that and where do you send it out to?
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Where do you just put a press release to?
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And she found like 80 emails and it was more than that.
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But yeah, but like just customized each press release for each County she was sending it to, or at each you know, whether it was to the news channels or podcast people, or I've had three interviews, all this attention and excitement around it and it just it's fun.
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It's cool to see, um, just something that we just were like we have to do something about, like act on this now and just see it turn into something you know, or just already getting a buzz.
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I guess we don't know if it's turned into anything yet, but it's fun to feel the buzz around it.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah, I'm super, super impressed, and I was out on the road this past week with one of our clients and a particular band member of this client came up to me and she was like so have you watched the interview that Sarah did?
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And I was like no, I haven't watched it yet because I've been working all day and she was like, oh my God, it's so good, it's so professional.
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I'm like you are an international sensation.
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Yes, dignitary Sarah.
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What I think is cool is that, uh, sarah has just like stepped up to the plate, like if, if the roles were reversed and I was the one, I would not want to do all of these interviews and things like that, and she's just like sure, I'm just sharing my experience.
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It's not that it's more, it's not as oh sure.
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Um, I've definitely had some hesitation cause I don't like being seen in that light, you know, just on camera.
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But it's fine, it's good and it has been fine and fun and I feel really like excited to meet these people.
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And, anyway, that's not the podcast we're on today.
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Well, I was going to ask once we started talking about our podcast, I was going to ask, you know, it seems like just about every week we say something like we're a science podcast or we're a psychology podcast or we're a whatever, and I was wondering this week if I could have a moment of our podcast that could be a prayer request podcast and a praise report podcast.
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Okay, I love that.
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Oh, we've got plenty of listeners with religious trauma that would really appreciate those two phrases.
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So, yeah, bring it on.
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Yeah, good, awesome, what is your prayer?
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Tell me what we need to pray about for.
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Is this an unspoken prayer request or a spoken one?
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Yeah Well.
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I have two.
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I have two the unspoken prayer request is what do I do with the question that you asked last week about?
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What are you afraid to tell the truth about?
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Yes, I haven't been able to find anybody to tell my answer to Well.
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can you tell us?
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Are you looking?
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No Like.
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Are you looking for?
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people I am making a prayer request.
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Who can I possibly tell my innermost and most authentic, most heinous truth to?
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I mean, you've got us two plus at least a thousand other people listening, I mean the difference between you and I is I would never put out that plea because I don't want people to know.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Same, but you aren't willing to share that publicly.
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Is what I'm gathering?
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No, absolutely not like.
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Absolutely not and in neither, I would imagine, are either of you right?
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no, I doubt it.
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Are we allowed to ask any leading questions?
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oh sure, yeah of course, just kidding, I wouldn't want that and now I have leading questions.
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uh, can I'm just gonna ask one.
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The thing you don't want to tell the truth about it is the reason why you need somebody to tell it to for the witnessing of it.
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Is that where that feels like to you, like just?
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to have them witness it with you.
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Yeah, I need, I need, I need for it.
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I think that that would the best word I can come up with is disarm.
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Oh yeah, the truth, I like that.
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Okay, you know, it's like if I can just say it out loud and just be witnessed and be heard, then it'll probably like totally dissipate.
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Yes, like it probably won't be that that big of a deal.
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It's like the power of it goes away.
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Yes, that big of a deal.
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It's like the power of it goes away.
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Yes, yes.
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Well, what if we say it and then just beep it out?
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No, I don't trust you on this.
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We can't have record of it.
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Is what you're saying.
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No, I'm not saying we can't have record of it.
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I'm saying I don't trust you with record of it.
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Is it illegal?
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Yeah, is it illegal.
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Is it something?
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We know about you.
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Yeah, I doubt it oh.
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I don't know.
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Oh okay, uh okay.
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Enough leading questions onto my praise report.
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Okay.
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Praise report.
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Well, that was my first prayer request.
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My second prayer request, um, is that, um, I and my second prayer request is that and it sounds very similar and it's not regarding the same thing I am dealing with a handful of situations in my life, like work, personal life, school job, like my whole being, where I really need a lot of discernment.
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And so we had I gave a big speech a few podcasts ago about angels, unemployed angels and them just sitting around needing work, and I really just could use some discernment.
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Angels, okay, I just need some discernment because I have a lot of things that feel very like on the line.
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It's like, well, I could do this or I could do that, and I don't think it's one of those things where I don't think either way.
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In any of these decisions that I have to make, I don't think there's a right or wrong, I think there's a good and I think there's a best, you know.
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And so, like I really am needing discernment, like, do I just go with good or do I go with best?
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Like what?
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Like what do I do?
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And so those are my two prayer requests.
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So, for all of you religiously traumatized, if you want to jump back into how your body felt when you were religiously traumatized and offer me some prayers.
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That'd be really nice.
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And then, while you're in that state, maybe I can do something that would not traumatize you and offer you a praise report, in that I have had my second prolo therapy session with my right foot and today, as we are recording right now, I have zero pain in my foot.
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That's huge.
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Yeah, it's huge.
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Holy smokes On your second treatment.
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That is incredible, yeah, and they said that I might not really notice significant impact until a fourth or fifth treatment, so the fact that I'm on treatment too.
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I had my first one in late November and then I had my second one last week.
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And as I was walking around my house today I was like why am I so weird?
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Like everything in my body is weird.
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Why is it weird.
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So I kind of did like a body scan and I was like I'm not in pain.
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I'm not in pain right now.
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That's incredible, kat, and I don't know if it's going to last a day.
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I don't know if it's going to last an hour, I don't know if it's going to last a lifetime, but this is my shout out for woo, woo, regenerative PRP prolotherapy.
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Woo, woo, regenerative PRP prolotherapy.
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I'm for it, I'm a fan.
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What a praise, praise the Lord.
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Raise your hands to the Lord.
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Is that the song?
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Hey, do you remember the last time?
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you didn't have pain in that foot.
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I thought you were going to ask something else.
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It was January of 2020.
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Wow, yeah.
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Five years years.
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I thought you're gonna say do you remember the last time you raised your hand in praise?
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and I would like you to answer that oh, it was just the two nights ago in washington dc.
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I could not help myself like good for you good for you a concert with one of our clients, and he was singing a song that I have heard him sing 8,000 times.
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And I literally was like yeah, they went up.
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Well, just this one went up.
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Like I was so excited.
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Yeah, just my right hand.
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Partial praise.
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I had our friend Teresa, who recently passed away.
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I would always tease her because whenever I would say that she was dangerous to stand next to in church, because she would put a hand up like this, but then she'd start circling with it and so her eyes would always be shut.
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So you would get the claw at some point during the worship service yeah.
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And did that somehow bless you?
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I'm sure it did in some way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I love washing over it, just washed right over me won't he do it okay.
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so I looked up the word discernment and, uh, cat, here is what it says it is Okay.
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And it says the ability to judge.
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Well, and then it says here's an example an astonishing lack of discernment is how it's described.
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And then, in Christian contexts which I think you might have brought along, it says perception in the absence of judgment, with the view to obtaining spiritual guidance and understanding.
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That.
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That is what I'm talking about Perception in the absence of judgment, with a view to obtaining spiritual guidance and understanding.
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And then an example in a sentence would be without providing for a time of healing and discernment, there will be no hope of living through this present moment without a shattering of our common life.
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That's bullshit.
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Who talks like that?
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Nobody even knows what that means.
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Like that's, yeah, that's like Thomas Merton stuff.
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Hey, I love Thomas Merton.
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No, me too.
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It takes about 10 years to understand what he's saying.
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Yeah, it love me some Thomas Burton stuff.
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No, me too.
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It takes about 10 years to understand what he's saying.
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Yeah, it's like reading Richard Rohr.
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You know, it's like wait, wait, wait, what?
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Like?
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I read a Mary Oliver poem on Facebook the other day and of course I thought of you because I know how much you love her work, Moose and I read it like six times and I was like I think maybe I'm understanding the first line, like after six times.
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Yeah, you gotta be in the.
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You gotta be in the right head space to sit there and take it in.
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Um, yeah, so wait.
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The reason I'm bringing this up is I think it's curious to me that you need outside confirmation on something.
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Well, it's curious to me too, If I could rid myself of whatever that is.
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I think, I would achieve enlightenment, like I would become enlightened right in that moment, when I did not need some sort of outside influence or opinion or something.
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And I really loved actually that definition that you read, the one that was in the Christian context, because it said without judgment, yeah, Perception and the absence of judgment.
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Yeah, it's like just perceiving what is not what I perceive is, but what actually?
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Is you know, it's very, it's actually very Taoist, I agree.
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I agree, it is very Thomas Merton.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So do you know what the right thing to do is?
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I don't.
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I mean, if I did, I would not be spending 20 minutes of all of our precious time talking about it Well, I'm enjoying these 20 minutes, me too.
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Yeah, I'm liking it, yeah, I'm digging it.
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I'm going to ask you again Do you kind of know what to do?
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Oh, do I kind of know.
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I kind of know.
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Okay, yeah, kind of know.
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But I don't know what would it take for you to know.
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An outside person.
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If an outside person is not an option.
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There is not an option.
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So the only other person besides an outside person would be God themselves.
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Okay, for God to tell me, okay so another, another prayer report is that the lord drops wisdom and knowledge into your soul and well, and being yes, yes, yes, yes, now you said, moose, that you had a topic that is going to completely like send us off into outer space, like space, yeah it sure is okay.
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I want to talk about something that popped in my mind a couple weeks ago, and maybe we need a whole spin-off of a podcast.
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That's just this, but what the hell happened in the 80s is what I would like to call it oh I mean where to begin I know I mean some of the best music ever agreed I totally agree.
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Yeah, were any of you in a car seat?
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no in the 80s, no nope no, none of us were in a car seat.
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That's what I'm saying.
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There was slinkies, no car seats.
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Like our parents had no idea where we were, my mom would always say, go play in traffic and I just had to be home when it got dark.
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Yeah, lots of crap happened in the eighties that nobody really talks about.
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So I would like to talk about something that happened to me in the eighties.
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Oh, okay, okay, I was born in 1978, by the way, so I wasn't you know, I was like, uh, so I wasn't you know.
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I was like what is that called A tween in the 80s?
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Yeah, sure, I was also a toddler, because it's a decade long.
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You were two years old.
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No but this happened later in the 80s.
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Here's my point, that is not a tween.
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Here's my point.
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Parents are divorced.
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All I want in my life is to be able to self-soothe by sucking my thumb.
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That's really all I want.
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These two humans I know it's their first time through the world as well, but they really.
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They caused some trauma in my life by breaking up and all that, whatever, and so all I want is a thumb.
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I'm not asking for much more, just to suck my thumb, yeah, and so I remember being at my dad's house during the summer, and he was.
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I don't know if my mom tasked him with it or what, but he was bound and determined that I was going to quit sucking my thumb, and he put hot sauce on my thumb.
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Like doesn't that just sound like something that would happen in the 80s.
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Yes, terrible Tabasco, that's what I got, you got it too, tabasco sauce.
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Yeah, and see, I don't think that.
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I don't really think I had a thumb sucking problem when I was teething and I blame my mother for how much I like to drink still.
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When I was teething, my mom would rub whiskey on my gum.
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I know that's what they did.
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Yeah, that was also just fine.
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Oh, it was totally fine, and chances are I was happier than any baby in this modern day.
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Like who has, like, you know what's it called?
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Like the lidocaine stuff that you put?
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You know it's like no, just use whiskey, like that's brilliant.
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Yeah, you know it's like no, just use whiskey, like that's brilliant, yeah.
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I know, I think the people who are raising kids in the eighties.
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They just had alcohol around and it was.
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It was like cat.
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It was just categorized as medicine at that point.
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You know what I mean.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they were like what do we use to feel better Whiskey?
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Let me put a little on my finger.
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Give it to the kid, yeah, yeah.
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So your dad put hot sauce on your thumb and did that rid you of your thumb sucking habit?
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I mean, I don't think so.
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I really don't, because I think I ended up sucking my thumb till I was like 12, which got me to 1990, for the record.
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But good job, thank you, but that's self-soothing at its finest.
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I was just thinking about shit that happened in the eighties and I was wondering do you guys remember um, when cyanide was found inside of Tylenol?
