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It's the Kat and Moose podcast I'm Kat an this is a true life podcast w ere we explore the quirks of b ing human birthday to you H ppy birthday to see hi Kat hi M ose Happy birthday.
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Happy birthday Hi everybody. It's my birthday.
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Okay, so I got to start out by saying we're recording this on my birthday which was September 30 is September 30 it is only 10am on my birthday so far so good. Cancel great was to be this morning.
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Oh, what a birthday present I know the COVID is on the on the loose again. So anyway, that thing which was great, but what was I gonna say? Oh, so far one of my highlights of the day besides you guys singing to me, is our dear listener and friend Chris sent me a cameo of Lisa Loeb talking directly to me so I need you to we'll put it in there. We want to play the whole thing. But she sings the song stay at the end for me stop and the whole time she's like saying my name and she's like I love that you're in the music industry too. And I know you have a podcast called cat moves and I know that you give them the script to say but the whole time I was like she's talking to me she said that she just like and here's a happy birthday song for you. And then she's like you say I only hear what I want to you say I talk so all the time. And I thought now that I you know, I know that it did something wrong because I missed you. You say stay say I only hear what I want to say. Happy birthday.
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I have many more in staywell ah that is so rad even I've seen these cases before I'm like they just reading a script but when they're reading the script to you yeah. She's like I understand you have a podcast called cat and mu so I'm like oh, that's our new promo.
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Yeah, I'm gonna ship myself.
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She was like and this is your company name and I know you have a I know you have a promotion company. And that's cool because I know what the music industry can be like.
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That is so fantastic. My first of all, that is the most thoughtful gift like Chris Yeah, awesome. And that is so great.
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And Muse you deserve to be seen and be known by all the famous people and all of us not so famous people. So Happy Birthday birthday. Awesome. It makes me think of the time I was at the Grammys. And it was like 20 maybe like 17 or something like that. Like one of our clients was up for a Grammy Award. And I went to the after party of the record label that he was a part of, and everybody kept like whispering like luck that is that is looking at is were they talking about you know, it was Lisa Loeb and I never got to like see her or talk to her but my interest Standing is that her presence was in the room ladies and I was like literally the whole night I was like you say only hear what I want you I don't listen. I don't pay attention to that to anyone anywhere.
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For you, Lisa, you may say that she's a one hit wonder, but I loved her records. And here's the crazy thing is Chris was like, I'm sorry, I couldn't get you Tori Amos. She was not on, on cameo.
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She wasn't because she's like floating around on a cloud like wondering, am I alive? Or am I Dad? Hey, is there a reason why I love her because she floats in the cloud.
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Right? It's so funny. Last night, we Sarah and I had a couple people over. And we were playing the game that you and I used to play all the time cat where it was like, we just go back and forth playing DJ and talk about why the songs mean the most to us. And so, um, one of our friends Jen, we've talked about her on the podcast was playing Led Zeppelin and AC DC because we were trying to convince each other we might like music that we haven't normally liked. Hmm, well come to find out. I recognize Led Zeppelin. And it's not terrible, but AC DC. Like, she's like, she has a whole religion around.
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Like we're listening to I still don't understand and I'm like, pulling up the lyrics like an old person. Like let me let me soak this in I was like, Um, no, but the girl has like, a wealth of knowledge around these artists anymore. She is brilliant. Yeah, it's the same person that called you out.
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Yeah. We're teasing Jen. We know. We need to pit Jen against your sister.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh man. Oh my gosh. Like my sister in Jen could go toe to toe Yeah, and you know what?
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It's time to schedule that party Addy you better get your chops ready sweetheart?
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Let's do it. And Jen you better get studying yeah so everyone study but anyway all that to say I decided the song I was going to bring to the table for my friends to hear was Tori a most precious things and the reason I brought that to the table and that's a very offensive song I just want to put it out there I remember Yes.
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Like yes there's a couple of lines in there that are inappropriate. And but I remember hearing that record the entire record is either boys or paleo or little earthquakes and that and that song came on and I was like a pretty decent Christian girl like I was in college. But like I like I don't know like I always love Jesus but I also had this aches about me which I'm an eight I know that's surprising. But there's a line in there where she just becomes the ultimate feminist in there and basically is giving the middle finger to like any she calls out Christian boys which I at the time I wanted to get the finger as well to them and so anyway, there's a couple of wines in there and I was like guys, everyone pull up the lyrics and that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm like looking at these lyrics going like I want to smash the faces of those beautiful boys those Christian boys. So you all I was waiting for you to that's boy Yeah, whoa. I will.
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If you're easily offended, I wouldn't look up those. I would.
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Oh my god, but I think it's one of the most powerful as someone who manages songwriters you guys that's a pretty powerful statement that she says after I want to smash the faces of those boys. There's Christian and book a most defined religious trauma before yeah 2020 you know, her dad was a pastor, the coolest story man like they have remained in relationship as as different as they are as far as I know. I mean, I was more of a fan like 15 years ago, but anyway, I've always thought it was so cool that she was always able to find a way to get her anks out via music and it's of course, harpsichord and piano and I mean, cat you went with me. I think it was In Chicago to a show to see it well, it was one of the most captivating performances I've ever seen.
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I mean, she straddles the piano bench. And on her left hand she's playing piano on her right hand she's playing harpsichord at the same time that with like a full band, and you're just like, in all well in, in, in your in all and it also is like juxtaposed with the idea that she is facing you wearing a dress with her legs spread wide open. Well, goodness gracious, there wasn't thing showing. Well, I know there wasn't, but it's like the way that the presentation was very intentional. Yeah, it's very, I am shocked on every sensory level right now. Right? Because I'm like, this is beautiful.
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Something is wrong. This is not okay. This is pretty. Oh my gosh, what's happening? What do I even seen? What am I hearing?
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You know, the point is the audience can't take their eyes off of her.
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Right, right. That's the point. I guarantee she's the one that puts all that together, for sure.
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Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Okay, so this Today's episode is all about me.
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I'm just fantastic. I can just put my notes away.
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No. Okay. So I feel like you had a very powerful body work, body work session? Are you willing to talk about it? Because Sarah and I were both. We have like a full 15 minute conversation around.
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What does this mean that she texts us?
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I'm more interested in hearing about how your conversation went. And I am telling my story, but I'm happy to do both. No, no, we just it was more like a fun conversation of like, how do you throw that down a hill.
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I'm telling you, I have the most amazing bodywork practitioner that I think exists on the face of the earth. And I was telling her yesterday we met in the park, which we haven't done in a long time, but the weather was really nice. And it was nice to actually like see her face like did we didn't have to wear masks because we were outside and, and standing pretty far apart. And I was telling her about some of my frustrations about some things and she was like, what does that make you feel like you want to do like in your body? And I said, Well, I knew you would ask me that question because you asked me that question every week. And I said, and as I was thinking about it this morning, having coffee, I thought I want to rip my lungs out and I want to throw them. And so without like skipping a beat. She said, let's do it. And I was like, Okay, let's do it.
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That's the kind of friend we all need. That's like, oh man, it's like improv. You never say no, you say yes. And yes, yes. And she's great at that. And so I said, Well, I don't know how to do that. I don't know what that looks like.
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And she was like, well, let's figure it out. And she's like, what does it does it feel big?
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Does it feel small, like and so basically like, I figured out what that looked like to me, I was sitting Indian style, and I said, I want to stand up. And she was like, Okay, and then I had to close my eyes because I'm too ashamed to being a crazy person. So I close my eyes. And I said, I feel like I want to slowly extract my right lung out of my body. And so I did this slight kind of thing that I'm assuming looks like pulling a rope out of it's on a pulley system. It looks like yeah, it's like on a pulley system. And I said and I want to like a rodeo like I'm gonna like lasso something, and I want to throw it down the hill.
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What was what did the right long do to you?
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I don't I'm not upset with it.
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I've just got I've got that much like, just frustration that it's like it to me. It's kind of a metaphor of like the ridiculousness of my level of frustration over just several things right now. But then I had a really sweet moment with my long life. I cradled it and we talked together. I mean, no, I really did like, don't laugh at me. It was really awesome.
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I'm going to laugh at you, because that's what I do. But wait a minute. Did you like wrap your lungs up and breastfeed it?
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I didn't breastfeed it I did call it like a baby. But no, I didn't breastfeed it my lung gets to be by my breasts all the times. Okay. It's really No, no need for exposure from the other side. So Oh, yeah, it was this really beautiful moment. And there were other moments that I'll keep for myself. But yeah, it was a really, really fantastic experience. Thank you for asking. Well, it's like when you were talking to the mountains when we were in Gatlinburg for the enneagram special like, you just had a moment where you were outside.
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If Sarah and I were inside, the door was open, and I was like, Who is she talking to you? And Sarah was like, I don't think it matters, man. I just don't think Like fairpoint Yeah. And we couldn't quite hear what you're saying, but you came back in like, blurry eyed and like, that was healing Yeah, oh, I had so many tears and in one of the things that I said to the mountains that night is I said, I am doing the work, I'm doing the work, like I am doing the hard work. And in To me, it's like I'm getting more and more comfortable with just going like, you know what, I actually don't care. If I think or you think, or anybody else thinks that I look or act like a crazy person, when I'm working out my shit, it's like, as long as I don't hurt you, or hurt myself, like I'm gonna just be okay with it, you know, and if that means talking to a mountain, if that means throwing my lungs down a hill, it's like I'm gonna, I'm just gonna do it.
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And you know what, like, I have a really, really big event that I'm a part of leading today. And I'm, it's coming with a lot of anxiety. And there was something about being able to do that, you know, the day before this event that I feel like really released a lot of energy. And I think I'm going to walk into today and tonight a better person for it.
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I think that's amazing cat. It's interesting, because going back to what you said, that you were talking in the mountains about of like, I'm doing the work. I'm back to Aunt Martha back. I was I was I think I was watching a video. So you know, as I'm getting into this coach training thing, like there's certain things you have to watch, and there's homework and all that.
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So I can't quite differentiate if this was in a book or in a video, but one of the things that she talked about was on your path to integrity, which is being your truest self in your life, and saying what you need and asking for what you need and all the things. She was just really emphasizing how one degree changes every day, makes a lifetime of difference. Hmm.
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And so I've been trying to focus on that because my my nature is to be like, Oh, I need to lose weight. I'm just using that as an example. But oh, I will stop eating. Like there's no, it's black and white. There's no in between. But she talks about and I thought you'd appreciate this.
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And she was such a big fan of, of the Blue Angels and airplanes and stuff. She was like, so a flight takes off. So if flight takes off in Nashville, we'll say, and it's headed to London.
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Okay. So they're, we're headed to London. And every 15 minutes, we moved just one degree different. We're not going to end up in Europe at all right?
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We're going to end up in Australia. And I'm not sure if that's exactly correct. But I will go to Australia if I can.
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But my point is, if we do that one degree change every single day of like, you know what, today, I'm gonna do the work exactly what you said, like whatever that means, if that means 15 minutes of meditation as compared to zero minutes, you know, that's doing the work. And so one of the things that I've started doing this week, is I've been waking up between like 530 and six every morning. Wow, that's early, it is early. But I have learned that when I wake up at seven, which is my normal time that I would get up that I'm like, I don't have the time I want in the morning to sit and have my coffee, to look at my calendar to think about what is a priority, I find myself at seven like, Oh, I gotta hurry and fix my hair, or I gotta jump in the shower. And I just feel so restless. And so I've been focusing on Okay, what is that one degree turn for me this week. That's what it is. And then I'm like, I'm just gonna layer things. Then the following week, I'm gonna add more movement to my my week, like I'm gonna actually go for at least a 30 minute walk. Can I come gas?
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Absolutely. But I'm learning that. And it's not easy because I am so extreme and the way I think I'm learning actually, that is the second half of life way of changing things.
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Alright, I think it is what like the degree thing?
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Yeah, just the mental changes make big changes, you know?
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Yeah. Yeah. Because really, you just have to sit with yourself long enough to go, what is it that I need and for me lately, the thing that keeps coming up is the word space, I need space.
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And that means a million different things like now I have my sacred space in my office, but like, my bedroom is a complete wreck. Like everything in my house could look really clean, but the bedroom is like oh It's literally like someone took a Giant Bomb of clothes and set it off and it just went everywhere and it feels like things are hanging from the ceiling all of that because they probably are so this week in it what it is is I go on these trips and then I never unpack I just like slowly do the laundry until every you know and then the clothes I never really wanted to wear but I packed are still in there what I'm curious about and I think I know the answer to this is even though everything looks like a clothing bomb in your bedroom, do you know exactly where everything is?
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Absolutely Yeah, absolutely. But that does not help me take a deep breath at night you know light a candle and read a book what it makes me want to go to sleep as fast as possible so I can ignore my reality and the rest of my house is like clean and put together but I don't know so i that is something that I'm going to tackle because when I have a clean bedroom I feel like it's a safe space. it you know what I mean? Like I feel calm and so anyway, I think so much of our environment, not going to go any Marie Kondo or any of that stuff but I do think it helps to have space that feels like you can recharge Yeah, I think that that's such great wisdom and I love that you're going to spend some time taking care of yourself and making that one degree change to do what you need this coming up few days. You know, it's like you're gonna tidy up your bedroom and it'll feel like a safe place and then how cool is that? That like the rest of your house already feels like a sanctuary your office space that Sarah just redesigned for you feels like a really beautiful meditative safe place and then your most intimate space your bedroom is also going to feel like that like Happy birthday to you man.
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Thanks Can you say intimate like this, your most intimate space you might consider your most intimate space to be tidy. Okay, okay, speaking of intimacy, I just started school for this fall quarter and we are studying this quarter law and ethics no and one would think that the study of Tennessee State law as it pertains to being a massage therapist might be boring as hell Well let me tell you something I got to class at like 10 till six this week, and I left it 1030 and I was captivated by the subject matter of the class the entire time. We talked about so many ethical considerations and issues and laws and why they exist and like the nature of ethics and there's like personal and professional and legal and like I loved ethics in college like when when I was in communications you know because my teacher would have us like watch an episode of whatever you know popular show was on TV at the time and we would talk about Okay, this is an ethical situation like what would you do like how would you handle this you know, and and this is in the context of being a bodywork professional in the material is fascinating. I always liked I remember media law and college was like one of my favorites because it actually studied the court cases and helped you understand precedents in different areas. So what did you What's the big aha for you that you learned? Oh, gosh, um, don't pull up the sheet and, and warm your hands?
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I don't know. Um, well, the big here's the thing that I took away from it. And this kind of has nothing to do with ethics, but it's something that really stood out to me that night is My teacher said time is the universe's way of letting everything not happen at once.
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Holy cow. Say it again.
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Time is the universe's way of letting everything not happen at once okay you want to go to school with me you want to go to no I don't I do not actually I do. But what does that mean to you? Because this is really synchronistic with what some things I'm learning what is it really yeah well what it means to me is it feels to me like time It makes me view time is something merciful and I don't necessarily view time as merciful like I view time is like Oh god, I'm getting older. Like oh, like things are happening. Things are evolving like that. That almost assuredly means death in some way shape or form around me or for me or whatever I don't really view time as is being kind to me and so it's the idea that like the universe would have enough compassion to allow not everything that's ever happened ever in the world to happen at the same time. Like that feels very gentle To me it feels very merciful it feels very balanced very fair.
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That's so cool. I love the word merciful because like I actually have to think what is mercy full mean? And I think it means like what do you think it means?
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Um, the word that comes to mind is like a compassionate compassionate leaning toward you.
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Okay, I'm gonna look it up.
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Yeah. I hate when the definition is them using the same word.
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Like Come on. The act of showing mercy. It's like no shit. That's what it is exercising mercy.
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Yeah, I caught that part.
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treating people with kindness and forgiveness. Okay, that's great. Okay, so that's huge because I I have always said that the hardest thing when you have someone who is dying someone in your life who's dying or seems to be dealing with something terminal is is like now that we have social media is watching the world just keep turning. You know, like it's hard to sit next to someone's hospital bed and you know, see people tweet about you know, what kind of toothpaste they prefer or I just had to paste like to post like a toupee, but it's got paste, block uses to paste to paste in the to pop to taste. Alright, so anyway, but I then I in the same breath, I say like one of the hardest things to see is the world continuing to turn when you're sitting next to someone who are honestly, just when you're going through hard stuff, let's be honest. And you're like, Oh, you still care about Ted law? So you're an asshole. And it's like, actually, no, actually, one of the most I'm gonna use merciful, one of the most merciful things is that the world keeps turning.
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Hmm. Because when you're not in that space anymore, you need to be able to get back on the boat.
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You know, I'm saying like, you need things to keep moving.
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Because if things don't keep moving, you stay stagnant and you stay, you know, in pain. And so to hear that, say it again, please the quote.
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Okay, time is the universe's way of letting everything not happen at once.
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I mean, it is the merciful is the only word cat. I just have to give you lots and lots of kudos there. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you. That was a really, I think a really meaningful conversation and it makes me think for some reason of just so many of the people in my life that I love, especially my sister and just how I don't know I just think that like, time is so so so precious. And like maybe I'm thinking of my sister because she has little boys and like I'm watching them grow up and it's like every time I see my oldest nephew I'm like dude is almost as tall as me right now. And he's nine Yeah, and it's like and at the same time it's like it's like she does get the pleasure of like watching him every day grow and to see that evolution you know and yeah, it's such a such a cool thing like for for him to become you know, conceived, born grown up in beyond like, all at one time would just be overwhelming, right? Like, it wouldn't be fair wouldn't give her or any of us the chance to like, enjoy and be in the moment.
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Right? I love that. How long do you think that there were humans in North America? Speaking of time, like specifically in North America, like when did the native Indians come here? I mean, I'm gonna say that well, we don't know how old the world is. And we don't know when humans first came to be so let's just say that but I'm gonna say 1000s of years ago, guess how many years because I know the answer.
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Oh, you do. Okay. I'm going to say 4600 years ago, not even close. Real That's what I would think as well. So remember how Martha Beck said pay attention to what you're fascinated with? this post pops up like a week ago, and it says, fossilized footprints show humans or in North America much earlier than first thought.
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Okay, so here's the photo. Okay, that's a lot of footprint.
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I want you to pay attention how the toes are spread apart. Okay?
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That's because they didn't wear heels. Okay, so it says researchers studying fossilized human footprints in New Mexico say they have the first unequivocal evidence that humans were in North America at least 23,000 years ago. My gosh, no.
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23 So I went down a deep hole. I was fast. Yeah, yeah. I think I was meant to be an archaeologist now, much earlier than previously thought. The people who made the footprints, mostly teenagers and children were living during the height of the Ice Age. What? So then I go deep, right? I'm like, wait, right, right. like Saudi years ago, there were people as well, at least in New Mexico anyway, so I was like, Okay, wait, when was Jesus right? Like, that's my only historical marker. So I google that he was around a four bc which was only 6000 years ago. So multiply that times 420 4000 years ago, there were people walking around barefoot.
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Like a couple 1000 miles away what so what is the correlation between Jesus in four times the amount of time before he was on the earth? I'm trying to like I'm trying to find like the point connection there.
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I guess the point of connection for me was Jesus feels like a long time ago. Okay, so I was trying to get like just some sort of grid to recognize how long ago Okay, yeah, it's like scalable now it's like okay, I can I can put my head around that okay, exactly.
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So 20 I can't stop saying this 24,000 years ago. There are people walking around that's millions of millions of people that have been walking the same land we walk on every day. Yeah.
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That many stories that much pain, that much joy? Yeah, that much simplicity compared to what we're used to. Oh, man, I mean, not connected to all of them, right? And then you start wondering, like you, you at least I go down the rabbit hole of quantum physics and I go like, well, is time even linear?
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Like are those people that were walking around 23,000 years ago?
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Are they people that are in our lives right now? Don't Mm hmm.
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I definitely agree with that.
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Like I'm convinced that some of the people in my life I'm like, I am convinced that I knew you in another dimension.
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Okay, so right okay, so I messed with my friend Ruth he's had the other day because I said to her and you'll appreciate this because we've played this game before. What if you're the only real person in this world and everyone around you including me is just someone you've created an order to deal with your your The Truman Show? Yep. And we're all something in your mind that you have created Yeah, I that when I remember that being one of my favorite conversation topics that that we've ever explored. Because it really is kind of mind blowing.
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It's like well then if that were the case, then why did I construct my mom to be who she is? What did I consider to be who you are and Sarah and everybody in my life? You know, and it's like, why it's like that. So it's an absolute mind.
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Bender, and then it makes me just think play tic tac toe. Do something.
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Oh, I hear you Okay, okay. Well, what's so funny is if we know the mind is just a magnificent place anyway. It also can screw with us and a lot of ways because you know, it's the most socialized part of who we are.
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You know, so it's like, that's another piece that Martha Martha is teaching me is so much of our anxiety is based on what we expect the people in the in the world to perceive us as, if you like even you going to this event today. Like I know this is a huge thing for one of your core artists that's on your roster. And it's like if you really broke down like the the anxiety And this and that of it, like, you have no problem running circles around anything that has to do with, oh, here's a problem here, let me solve it, like you've got that hands down.
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All the stuff that you're concerned about is probably perception of you. Hmm. And we're so socialized to be like, if you don't fit into this certain thing, then you're an outcast. And I've seen that I've seen that time and time again, it starts in grade school, right? When we have a certain group of kids who are over here sitting by themselves, because for whatever reason they've chosen or they don't care enough to try and fit in. And I, I think those people, those outcasts are the freakin rebels of the world that are just like, I'm going to show up, you know, I'm not going to let people you know, shave off my rough edges.
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This is a part of who I am.
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That's so cool that you say that because I as you know, I'm in a kind of a process group that's kind of like a group therapy thing. And, and I was sharing with the other members about how some of my frustrations about, you know, this event and like, kind of the idea of, of perpetuating art and being a part of building and creating art that perpetuates something that I feel like is so disgraceful in our society right now. And it's like, I feel like in in our, and I'm talking specifically American society and southern American society, like to say like, Christian, that means a thing right now.
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Yeah, that means something really different than it meant 10 years ago, and 100 years ago, and 2000 years ago, you know, and I feel like right now, it's very hard to want to identify as a Christian person, because of so many of the misconceptions around what that actually means.
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And I was saying that like, in order to like, it's like, I was really talking about the dissonance between, you know, making creating, perpetuating the creation of art that celebrates Christian beliefs.
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feels almost dissonant. Yeah, with like, with, like, who and what I am in the world, you know, and it's like, that's really, really a scary, scary place. Yeah. And one of the members of the group said to me, he said, cat, he goes, I hope that you realize that you showing up and being you is what everybody at that event needs.
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They don't need you to do or be anything that you're not, they need you to be you. That's why you're in the position you're in you are uniquely crafted to be you and be yourself. And I thought, you know what, like, that's a really good perspective. And so like, the way I'm walking into things today, is that like, cat is showing up, and I'm bringing all of my awesomeness, and it's just gonna be great. Exactly. And for the things that don't like me or think I'm fat, or seeing things are not organized the way they should be. Yeah, like I don't I like I cannot control you and your feelings or what you think about me. And so I'm just going to show up and be me. And hope that that is a different experience than the one where I am just super worried about what does everybody think?
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Yeah, I mean, I didn't, I did, I felt very similar. At that work trip in Detroit last week, I like felt this intense. A panic is the way I describe it to my therapist, when I was walking out of my hotel room for the first day where I was going to see everyone because I'd come in at night and had like room service in my room. And I literally was going through my head with like, Oh my god, I shouldn't even be here. And it wasn't necessarily like, I don't deserve to be here. It was very much like, I've gained weight since these people have seen me like that sort of, you know, that sort of idea. But at the time it was it. It sort of consumed my entire brain. Yeah, and I'm learning Don't let your brain lead you because it will socialize before any other part of your body well, and so my brain is saying, all these people are gonna be in good shape and they're living good lives and they're not struggling like you are. And then I literally was like, Okay, you know what, I may be late five minutes, but I'm going to take a deep breath and I'm going to spend time getting in my body, and I dropped down and I was like, down in my chair. In, in my gut, my stomach, I felt you, no matter what people think of your weight, or whatever you belong here, and, and I don't, I didn't feel like I belonged there, to the point that the last night, or the last day, we were having lunch with people, and there were six of us. And they all four of the six of us worked on the Christian radio side. And then me and my friend worked at labels. And so we were like, sitting, and I go, do you guys think if I had to, do you think I could fit? Who I am inside of a Christian radio station? Again? If that was like, if that do you think I could? And it before I get the words out of my mouth, I just saw this. Every person at that table were like, no, no way.
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Sorry, but not happy. And at first, I felt like Oh God, like, am I? So is it that bad? Is it?
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Am I that bad? And then I kind of felt this little thing in my gut rise up like, yeah, bitches.
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Because five years ago, I probably could have fit back in, do you know what I'm saying? And here's the thing, I don't have, as far as like, believing in God, and constantly having conversations and constantly praying, and the things that I do that for me, connect me with the universe, and who I call God. Um, it's not that different than what some of those folks believe I just, I can't handle all of the we are against, or I would like to proclaim that you are wrong, because you know, like, that isn't me anymore. And if you ask me less of a Christian, I'm totally okay with that. What I know is I have a daily conversation with something bigger, something more divine than I am, that isn't outside of me, but is inside of me. And that is right for me.
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I love that. And it makes me think of this thing that that I learned in class. And it has to do with the entity called the corporeal soul. And my understanding of that is that our souls are comprised of, if you try to break it down of like four things, so you have half of your soul that is comprised of the spiritual, physical, emotional lineage of your family. So you have half of your soul that is given to you from your dad, half of your soul that's given to you from your mom. And so that's half of your soul. So each parents have a quarter, let's say they they help build a quarter of the soul. This sounds like a publishing deal. Right? Right.
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It's about that complicated. And then the other half of your soul is comprised of the Divine. Oh, wow. And so your corporeal soul, like your entire soul is, is both of these things working together. And so when you said that, like, Did that when you talk to the divine, the divine is in you, and also much bigger than you, I really believe that to be true. And I think that that's the part of us that gets to keep to keep growing and getting closer to the divine is like, Okay, I have, I have these things that I got from my parents, both wonderful and challenging. And so how do I navigate those things? And I have this beautiful other half of my soul that helps me do that. You know, and like, I just find that to be so cool. Talking about Martha back and what fascinates you like I could roll around in that shit. I'm just rolling around in my corporeal Oh, man.
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It's interesting, because what you just described reminds me of how people describe Jesus that he was human, but also God. And I find it so interesting, that we, as Christians, or spiritual people, have you want to see that can't put our arms around that with ourselves. Like, why would God put that piece of allegory or truth or literal, whatever you want to say? That, that Jesus was both God and man, but why can't we be that? I mean, like, right, he is in us or she is in us, and especially when if you're a believer of Scripture, when the Word says you will go on to do greater things than me Wow. Like that's what Jesus said you will go on to do greater things than me.
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And it's like how in the fuck can we believe that that we can do it if we don't have the divine in us now in order for Jesus to do what he did, he had to have supernatural shit going on me, right? And so it's like for us to for us to not have confidence and believe that we to have the divine in us. It's like come on guys, we're selling ourselves short.
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I know we're selling ourselves short, and then we're dying and happy because we have somehow fought the good fight. And I just think that's a bunch of garbage and bullshit. Yeah, come on preach man, like, like fighting the good fight like, Oh, I wake up and I'm I live in this wonderful, safe country, for the most part, like I recognize bad things happen. But I'm just walking around as me as my own enemy. I'm a set Anima Same difference really. Like I have chosen that the enemy is inside of me, like what are we actually doing here? Like, we have been given all of this to work with. You know, and it's the part that makes me so mad.
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There's gonna be lots of nooses and cats. Sarah, is that it's endorsed by an institution.
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It's not endorsed. It's perpetuated. Yeah, like it is like it is like built like a Jenga game. It is like stack it on. Yeah.
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And every single sermon that comes out of some of these people, is, let me remind you why you are garbage and saved you. Except it's cloaked in some spiritual bullshit. The demons are inside of you. And you're like, wait a minute, and then you start having checks in your spirit. You know, there's a reason last episode we talked about how from late 30s to 60 is that is that you know, life that moment in life, Rene Brown said it where you're like, literally going, what in the fuck is happening right now? Everything feels off. And you know why it feels off? Because we've been walking around dress like something that we think everybody wants. We eat our feelings, and drink them.
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Instead of just going like, let me be my sloppy ass self and see if I can be utilized in this world. Because guess what? Why is sloppy bad? I don't like dressing up close. To let me be my core self behind a microphone. Yeah, tell the world that actually. God sees goodness. And each of us yeah, and God is like drawing that out of us. And the bullshit of like, I'm human, and I can never stack up to who the Holy Lord is. He's in you, you fall.
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Speaking to myself, not you and here and begins the first service at the church of the congregation, you can donate as little as $5 a month to be a part of our church. And we accept all we do and we want those of you who are Dallas, those of you who are Buddhist, those of you who are in do all of the different religions and beliefs in all the things come one come all let's celebrate the divine within us at the church of the catawbas who's our worship leader?
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Okay, here's the thing is it's the Cadmus, church of Saturday saints.
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Absolutely amazing. Happy birthday to you.
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Lord, I lift your name on hi To sing your praises I'm so glad you're here we go.
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I'm so glad you came to say.
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Good came from, from the cross.
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from across to the grave. from the grave to the sky, Laura left your name
